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Bob Dopolina 10-13-13 06:22 AM

I really can't say much about a frame I've never seen, ridden or tested in any way. If I did, I would just be talking out my arse (not that I haven't done that before).

What I can say is that even if I bought 100 frames/forks from the dozen or so Taiwan frame factories I have worked with over the years (and a few Chinese factories) I would pay more than this.

mprelaw 10-13-13 10:28 AM

Anecdotes are subject to the "GIGO" rule. They're only reliable as the person reporting them. And of course, everything posted on the interblabz is reliable. :lol:

spectastic 10-14-13 07:54 AM

man that frame looks good... I can probably build me a nice and light sub 17 pounder with carbon rims and full ultegra for about $1700... N+1 is bearing down on me!

I kind of wish they would make titanium frames. I could use that for crits.

wjclint 10-14-13 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by RobertL (Post 16155873)
And this speaks volumes to me, skip to nine minutes into video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nVbmcnsXXs


http://dengfubikes.com/video/detail.php?id=2

wjclint 10-14-13 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by surgeonstone (Post 16155833)
Well enough anecdotes do make data.

No - the plural of anecdote is not data.

If you want to make a corollary it would be something like:

Anecdotes that are randomly selected, variable controlled, and of sufficient quantity so as to be statistically significant to the topic at hand can be data.

bt 10-14-13 11:09 AM

where are all the horror stories on the china frames??

Brian Ratliff 10-14-13 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by wjclint (Post 16159660)
No - the plural of anecdote is not data.

If you want to make a corollary it would be something like:

Anecdotes that are randomly selected, variable controlled, and of sufficient quantity so as to be statistically significant to the topic at hand can be data.

This is why you should be willing to pay a little extra for a US based company to do a bit of quality control on your bike frame prior to your buying it.

Comments like "...where are all the horror stories on the china frames??" are anecdote. Statistical quality control off the factory line is data, or as you put it, randomly selected, variable controlled, anecdotes of sufficient quantity so as to be statistically significant for the topic of frame quality.


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