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Old 12-10-13, 12:00 PM
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If I get it, it will be built cheaply using used parts and ridden for a few months until I can afford my next bike. My LBS has offered to build me a bike using a new TCR Advanced frameset and components from a 2012 TCR Advanced 0 in the smallest size that hasn't sold. Bike will have 10-speed di2 Ultegra components and will be substantially discounted.
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Originally Posted by TexMac
Beutiful bike, what kind of wheels are those?
Thanks for the kind words, they're Zipp 404's.
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Originally Posted by zx9rmal
'14 Propel Advanced 2. Proud new owner.
are those the new p-slr1 aero wheels? I'm curious as to see the difference between them and the <2013 ones which I have.
I heard the newer ones are cheaper quality and are much heavier
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Originally Posted by jerrayy
are those the new p-slr1 aero wheels? I'm curious as to see the difference between them and the <2013 ones which I have.
I heard the newer ones are cheaper quality and are much heavier
Yes, I've heard that. I've also heard from a couple of knowledgeable people in the biz that the '14 version is an excellent wheelset, weighing around 170g more, with some of that weight in the hub, which would have little effect on spin up, and with better aerodynamics and stability than the '13. The new wheels feel good to me.

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Originally Posted by zx9rmal
Yes, I've heard that. I've also heard from a couple of knowledgeable people in the biz that the '14 version is an excellent wheelset, weighing around 170g more, with some of that weight in the hub, which would have little effect on spin up, and with better aerodynamics and stability than the '13. The new wheels feel good to me.
Would you mind taking a picture of the spoke holes in the rim? I have also heard that those have changed for 2014
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Originally Posted by jerrayy
Would you mind taking a picture of the spoke holes in the rim? I have also heard that those have changed for 2014
Here you go.
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Originally Posted by jerrayy
Would you mind taking a picture of the spoke holes in the rim? I have also heard that those have changed for 2014
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Here you go.
First, thanks for he photo post. Like my round holes a bit better.

I seem to have some flex at times with the 2013 wheels on my SL3. Glad to read the new wheels are slightly stiffer.
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Originally Posted by zx9rmal
Here you go.


here are my wheels
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Originally Posted by zx9rmal
Yes, I've heard that. I've also heard from a couple of knowledgeable people in the biz that the '14 version is an excellent wheelset, weighing around 170g more, with some of that weight in the hub, which would have little effect on spin up, and with better aerodynamics and stability than the '13. The new wheels feel good to me.
The added weight is not the hubs, as the dtswiss 240 are the same.


the difference is going from what giant calls hard carbon faring to a soft lower quality (heavier) carbon.

as you can see, the spoke holes have been enlarged, plus when you press on the faring, it's very soft, almost plasticky feeling. The old pslr1 aero is much harder and lighter.

The 2013 decals are under the finish. The 2014 can be removed.
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Originally Posted by R1lee
The added weight is not the hubs, as the dtswiss 240 are the same.


the difference is going from what giant calls hard carbon faring to a soft lower quality (heavier) carbon.

as you can see, the spoke holes have been enlarged, plus when you press on the faring, it's very soft, almost plasticky feeling. The old pslr1 aero is much harder and lighter.

The 2013 decals are under the finish. The 2014 can be removed.
That's not correct. According to the tech folks at Giant, the '14 wheels were totally redesigned. The hub internals on the '14 wheels are DT350, which adds a bit of weight, but at the center. The aerodynamics were improved with a wider rim and a taller profile (the majority of the weight increase). The rim is now a two piece structure with the spokes attaching to the base rim for better braking and structural stability, needing less material on the sides. Giant claims that the '13 wheel is better in weight only, and that for aerodynamic performance and structural stability the '14 is a far better wheel.

Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by zx9rmal
That's not correct. According to the tech folks at Giant, the '14 wheels were totally redesigned. The hub internals on the '14 wheels are DT350, which adds a bit of weight, but at the center. The aerodynamics were improved with a wider rim and a taller profile (the majority of the weight increase). The rim is now a two piece structure with the spokes attaching to the base rim for better braking and structural stability, needing less material on the sides. Giant claims that the '13 wheel is better in weight only, and that for aerodynamic performance and structural stability the '14 is a far better wheel.

Hope this helps.
My info came from Giant Canada at the annual dealer meeting. To be honest, i'm not surprise that either one of them could be wrong.

On Another note. The original '13 version is the same design, the carbon faring has always been a faring, it was never used for structure. So the spokes have always been attach to the PSLR1 Rim. That is the reason they didn't change or find it necessary to change the moniker of the wheel. They are PSLR1 wheels with an Faring (aero).

I'll find out in the next few days as i'll have my LBS measure the wheels.

I also know the MSRP of the wheels have dropped from $1500 for the '13 to less then $1200 for the new model. Maybe that has to do with the hub change.

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Originally Posted by R1lee
My info came from Giant Canada at the annual dealer meeting. To be honest, i'm not surprise that either one of them could be wrong.

On Another note. The original '13 version is the same design, the carbon faring has always been a faring, it was never used for structure. So the spokes have always been attach to the PSLR1 Rim. That is the reason they didn't change or find it necessary to change the moniker of the wheel. They are PSLR1 wheels with an Faring (aero).

I'll find out in the next few days as i'll have my LBS measure the wheels.

I also know the MSRP of the wheels have dropped from $1500 for the '13 to less then $1200 for the new model. Maybe that has to do with the hub change.
Interesting that we both got differing info from the company. The info that I was shown was pretty detailed, technically, so I'm assuming it came from a tech guy. It's all moot since the '14 wheel is what we get.
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Has anyone upgraded wheels from the P-SLR1 Aero?
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Yes I don't use pslr1 aero. Plus my lbs gives credit on them if you don't want them.


my riding buddy has the same bike as you, he rides zipp 202's.
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What wheels are you using? I was pleasantly surprised after reading a couple of reviews of the P-SLR1 Aero wheels. They were praised in both reviews.
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My new Giant Propel
excellent. congrats!
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Originally Posted by zx9rmal
What wheels are you using? I was pleasantly surprised after reading a couple of reviews of the P-SLR1 Aero wheels. They were praised in both reviews.
for my everyday I use zipp 202's fc. For flat rides I use to use the 404 that came with my propel, but I just replaced them with powertap enve 6.7. I got to wait till spring though.


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My new Giant Propel

I love that new giant color. To bad they didn't bring that to canada, I would have purchased that frame set. Just love white bikes.
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My new Giant Propel
My LBS has that same model in his showroom. Good looking bike, but it looks sooooo much better in person IMO.
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