If Steel is so Great...
10-18-13, 01:05 PM
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If Steel is so Great...
If Steel is so great, why do many steel-bike enthusiasts have steel bikes with carbon-forks and carbon seatposts?
10-18-13, 01:07 PM
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Can't answer that.............but if Japanese made cars which are obviously better than most other if not all others why do people still drive the not so good others**********
I think it depends and like anything on the geometry and frame builder.
I think it depends and like anything on the geometry and frame builder.
10-18-13, 01:10 PM
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10-18-13, 01:12 PM
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What qualifies as "many?"
Lots of steel bikes ship with steel forks -- Surly, Salsa, Co-Motion, Soma come to mind.
Lots of steel bikes ship with steel forks -- Surly, Salsa, Co-Motion, Soma come to mind.
10-18-13, 01:15 PM
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If your frame is a boat anchor, you need to shave weight wherever you can.
10-18-13, 01:26 PM
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What is the point of your post? To discredit steel frames because builders have discovered a complementary relationship with carbon forks? Is it inconceivable that steel has attractive properties to bring to bicycle construction that are enhanced by judicious use other materials? If is looks like a troll, walks like a troll, and smells like a troll, I guess it is a troll.
10-18-13, 01:28 PM
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What is the point of your post? To discredit steel frames because builders have discovered a complementary relationship with carbon forks? Is it inconceivable that steel has attractive properties to bring to bicycle construction that are enhanced by judicious use other materials? If is looks like a troll, walks like a troll, and smells like a troll, I guess it is a troll.
10-18-13, 01:34 PM
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I have a steel fork on my crabon bike, with an AL seatpost, just because I wanted to
10-18-13, 01:37 PM
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Who can argue with this?
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As far as choosing is concerned, posts on the 41 aren't going to inform you about how you will feel on the different frames. The only way to make the decision is to ride the different combinations, either as test rides at your LBS or as rides on bikes lent by friends and acquaintances. If you don't know what you like a priori, the 41 can't tell you what to do.
I will say, however, that IMO anyone not already addicted to steel through history, nostalgia, etc. might just as well just buy an all CF bike. I have a 30 year history with steel and still love it as I do Ti and CF as well, but for the objective cyclist there is really no way to go wrong with CF. Why complicate something that can be so simple?
10-18-13, 02:01 PM
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I don't know why you have to make this another steel vs carbon or whathaveyou thread, so I'll say troll.
10-18-13, 02:16 PM
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The main advantage of steel frames is esthetic-
The thin round tubes LOOK pleasing
They are more durable too -less likely to dent when handled casually-dropped etc-and dents are less important so two reasons-but mainly nice clean looks.
The tires-pressure volume- has more to do with how forgiving the ride it than the frame material.
Yeah-steel frames look good-that is it- but that is a LOT!
The thin round tubes LOOK pleasing
They are more durable too -less likely to dent when handled casually-dropped etc-and dents are less important so two reasons-but mainly nice clean looks.
The tires-pressure volume- has more to do with how forgiving the ride it than the frame material.
Yeah-steel frames look good-that is it- but that is a LOT!
10-18-13, 03:05 PM
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Obviously the answer is to troll BF rather than trying out said bikes.
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Yup, those who think a lb will make them faster.
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All my carbon bikes have steel dropouts. Maybe brass or some other alloy. Definately not CF. I bough a steel bike after owning 2 carbons and a Ti and love the hell out of it. In fact I'm looking to buy more steel and really interested in anothe CF bike
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OP signed up last month and has 6 threads on the first page. I call troll, add him to the ignore list....
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All of the common materials have their pro and cons and inevitably there will be times when the pros of two materials complement each other for a given purpose. BTW, my three steel bikes all have aluminum seat posts and only one has a CF fork.
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And seriously, what's up with steel cassette cogs?