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Gore Windstopper anyone?

Old 11-02-13, 02:00 AM
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Gore Windstopper anyone?

I have this in some Outdoor Research gloves (not for cycling) that I really, really love. They are "warm enough" for active winter sports as long as you stay active. I love them for skiing. Sometimes on the chair lifts they are a little light.

Today at REJ, I saw a cycling jacket, which was convertible to a vest, that was made with this technology. It was quite expensive at $189. Curious if anyone has tried it, or other Gore Windstopper products for cycling.

With the gloves I've seen windproof, highly water resistant, and very breathable. Could be a nice combo of attributes for my AO.
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My winter booties are made of that stuff. It works at least as far as the 30s - doesn't get below that often in Louisiana. Good stuff.
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The jacket I use for X-Cross country skiing is made with Gore Windstopper. It works well for blocking the wind, but does not breath enough for high output activities so you get wet and cold. Most of the time I have the zipper down half way to help it breath.
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Originally Posted by Long Tom View Post
I have this in some Outdoor Research gloves (not for cycling) that I really, really love. They are "warm enough" for active winter sports as long as you stay active. I love them for skiing. Sometimes on the chair lifts they are a little light.

Today at REJ, I saw a cycling jacket, which was convertible to a vest, that was made with this technology. It was quite expensive at $189. Curious if anyone has tried it, or other Gore Windstopper products for cycling.



With the gloves I've seen windproof, highly water resistant, and very breathable. Could be a nice combo of attributes for my AO.
They make good products I have the jacket and paid $100+/- on Amazon. It is good but not great.

I do have the liners/boots that you wear inside your shoe and really like them when it is cold. They are much easier to use than the booties that go on the outside.
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Old 11-02-13, 07:26 AM
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I have a pair of tights I use with the Gore Windstopper, no chamois so I have to use bibs underneath. It's a great product but it does hinder my riding a bit in that it's not as flexible as some others I use.
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Old 11-02-13, 07:28 AM
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I bought one of those Gore convertible jackets last year with the Windstopper fabric. It works great. There have been several rides where it's been cold starting out and then later on I've been taking the sleeves off.
I found it on Bonktown/Chainlove for about $80 (not lying). I don't know if they have been selling any recently or not.
https://www.chainlove.com/?avad=14989_f53fd843
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Originally Posted by clausen View Post
The jacket I use for X-Cross country skiing is made with Gore Windstopper. It works well for blocking the wind, but does not breath enough for high output activities so you get wet and cold. Most of the time I have the zipper down half way to help it breath.
Gore wind stopper fabric is only on the front portions of most cycling specific outfits and allows breath ability and moisture to escape.
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I'm not a fan of Gore Windstopper for cycling. Too heavy, useful in too narrow temperature range, and restricts motion too much. IMO, of the Gore products for cycling, their Active Shell stuff is better and more versatile.

A lot of you guys already know of my potential biases, but FTC regs require me to disclose I get compensated to test GoreTex products whenever I talk about their stuff or competing products. But I neither use nor recommend things I don't like myself.
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I have a wind stopper jacket that is about 4 to 5 years old and it is still my go-to cold weather jacket. For me it works best in the 20 to 35 degree range. With regard to breathability - as others have said the jacket is designed with wind stopper fabric in the front and a light breathable fabric in the back so by design most of the moisture should escape through the back. This design works pretty well but since the jacket is so warm care must be taken not to wear too much under layer at the higher end of the temperature range. (maybe one light compression type shirt in the 30's)
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Old 11-02-13, 09:43 AM
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Yeah. Nothing with a membrane (like Windstopper) breaths anywhere near well enough for me. Even if I feel cold, I still sweat and get wet under it while riding at my normal clip. It's best when limited to front panels to block direct wind while other panels are ordinary highly permeable knit.

In cold wx, I can go out and ride for a 2-3 hrs and feel cool but still sweat. If I stop mid ride for any length of time I do get chilled and it takes a while to recover, if I do at all during the remainder of the ride.
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Old 11-02-13, 09:54 AM
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Thanks folks. I was worried it might be too warm.

Well.... maybe I should just start another thread, but let's try here. I need to buy some gear so I can keep cycling through the winter here. To clarify, these will be recreational rides (ie, not a commute) and I'm in the PNW, so temps are generally mild. Let's say 40's-50's. However moisture is always a possibility. My rides are set up to be challenging with lots of climbs so there will be significant sweating going on.

So.... what should I look at? I'm inclined to go with layers, since that works for me in other strenuous outdoor activities. Any specific recommendations?
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Old 11-02-13, 12:33 PM
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I have a pair of the Gore Tool Soft Shell Windstopper Gloves, and I have been happy with them. It hasn't gotten too cold here yet, just down into the mid 30's, so I can't comment on colder temps yet. But I'm happy with them so far. At the end of the winter I'll give you a better review, but for the $30 I paid I am happy so far with the purchase. If I need warmer gloves I have some TNF glove liners and ski glove shells that I'll just use instead
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Old 11-02-13, 12:44 PM
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I'm usually not a fan of overpriced bike-specific clothing (once you call it bike-specific, you get like a 100% markup compared to regular generic sports clothing) but the Gore Windstopper is absolutely legit.

My lightweight Windstopper shell/jacket costed about $120 a few years ago, and it's been worth every penny. Yes, it really does work, and the lightweight shell means that you can use it comfortably in a huge range of temps (I'm good from 30F to 75F with it, which I actually do encounter in the mountains/valleys of CA in a single ride.)

I will add, however, that I do think the value of the windstopper decreases a lot when its in vest form. And as well, I would still highly recommend a form-fitting sports shirt under it. While the windstopper works great, I still get wind leakage through the neck and sleeves even when they're cinched fairly close, and even that little breeze can chill you when you're soaked with sweat, but the form-fitting undershirt completely solves it. That's pretty much my gear from 35F to 60F - windstopper jacket + formfitting undershirt, and add a bike jersey in between if it's close to 35. I never overheat or get overly chilled with that.

I'd highly recommend the Windstopper, and I think it's worth the extra money for it.
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Originally Posted by banerjek View Post
I'm not a fan of Gore Windstopper for cycling. Too heavy, useful in too narrow temperature range, and restricts motion too much. IMO, of the Gore products for cycling, their Active Shell stuff is better and more versatile.

A lot of you guys already know of my potential biases, but FTC regs require me to disclose I get compensated to test GoreTex products whenever I talk about their stuff or competing products. But I neither use nor recommend things I don't like myself.
All the 'Windstopper' name designates is that garment has a ptfe membrane in it, something all "active shell" and all other goretex products have as well. It would make sense that the typical Active Shell product be a lighter weight product, but the names do not guarantee it. And if the fabric weight are similar the Windstopper should breath better as the moisture does not have an additional polyurethene layer to fight it's way through.
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Old 11-02-13, 04:29 PM
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The GoreTex stuff is great for low-intensity hiking, or relaxed recreational cycling in wet cold weather, but if you're hammering and sweaty on at least part of your ride, Gore-tex is too heavy and doesn't breath enough unless it's subfreezing for me.

Gore Windstopper is very light. Not sure why someone would find it heavy and restrictive - mine is just as light as a lightweight running jacket which requires much more motion freedom than a cycling jacket, and it's good enough that I double it as a long distance running jacket. One of the things I like best about the Windstopper is that it's so light.
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Again, the Windstopper or Goretex is only the membrane technology and does not make a garment inherently heavy or light. It is up to the manufacturer to decide how and where to use either. To say either is too heavy or light does not make sense on it's own.
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Old 11-02-13, 05:55 PM
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Windstopper isn't enough for me. I go with Gore-Tex
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I have a

1. Gore Oxygen jacket
2. Castelli Free jacket
3. Castelli Chiro Due gloves
4. Castelli Ultra Shoe cover

That all uses Windstopper and it does work for the Canadian fall/winters.
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Well....... I ponied up and bought it today. It's this:

https://www.goreapparel.com/on/demand...&listing=false



I went back (1st mistake) and tried it on again with less stuff underneath (2nd mistake)... it's quite light and thin. I dunno, might be a mistake, but the way I've found what works for ME in my other streuous outdoor activities in funky weather is to just buy & try.

I'll report back.
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I have owned this jacket for 3 years and love it. If I am overheating I just unzip the underarms. I ride down to about 34 degrees without issue, Below that I start layering.
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Originally Posted by canam73 View Post
Again, the Windstopper or Goretex is only the membrane technology and does not make a garment inherently heavy or light. It is up to the manufacturer to decide how and where to use either. To say either is too heavy or light does not make sense on it's own.
No, Gore-tex is much thicker (the membrane) than Windstopper. To the point that even the lightest Gore-Tex jackets I've found are unusable for me on cycling. (Great for low-intensity hiking/walking.)
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I have a couple different windstopper items... the gloves rock and I have a jacket or two with it as well and I like it all. For 40s/50s though, a light windblocker vest and arm warmers are the ticket (for me.)

If you ride in the rain a lot apparently "showers pass" jackets are the bomb.

get something to protect your feet too.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
get something to protect your feet too.
Since I'm a Castelli wh0re and believe in Windstopper



Castelli Duo Windstopper Socks

Might be too thick for my liking though, but very useful for commuters.
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Originally Posted by hhnngg1 View Post

No, Gore-tex is much thicker (the membrane) than Windstopper. To the point that even the lightest Gore-Tex jackets I've found are unusable for me on cycling. (Great for low-intensity hiking/walking.)
Which are the lightest GoreTex jackets you've tried? While the vast majority are unsuitable for cycling, there are some that are quite good. My lightest one weighs 6oz and fits easily in my pocket.

I've never tried a Windstopper running or cycling jacket that was suitable for any purpose more strenous than dog walking.

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