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Old 11-07-13, 06:47 PM
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Nobody thought to comment on their $12,000 blue basketball?

They made two of them! The high price is due to the extreme quality of the leather and the craftsmanship.

Obviously, these things are not aimed at any market that includes any of us (apparently) but 11k for that bike is a lot closer to reasonable than 12k for a damn ball.
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Originally Posted by dalava
At least for me, the vibe of it smacks of that... even though i know their target market is decidedly not that segment, but still, it's for the cool kids (with means)
You think that these are all hipster bikes?




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Originally Posted by Cyclelogikal
Maybe I am missing something here but a 24 lb. beach cruising look alike bike made of carbon fiber because I assume filter was a typo for $11K**********? Yeah, that will sell just great! I am seriously not trying to be a smartass here but are they serious about the price at $11k for a bike that at most should be $600 if really made of carbon!
To start, the frame is made by Time. What does the cheapest Time frame go for - $2-3k at retail? Factor in the low-production numbers and you've got a hell of an expensive frame.
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This is why the terrorists hate us.
Isn't being French reason enough?

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I really like the hipster fixies. The newer ones are really colourful. I saw an all white frame with a bianchi green wheel. very nice. very nice indeed.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
Nobody thought to comment on their $12,000 blue basketball?

They made two of them! The high price is due to the extreme quality of the leather and the craftsmanship.

Obviously, these things are not aimed at any market that includes any of us (apparently) but 11k for that bike is a lot closer to reasonable than 12k for a damn ball.
But it's BLUE! Or since they're French, c'est BLEU!
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Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20
But it's BLUE! Or since they're French, c'est BLEU!
If it's a French basketball, was it dropped under duress?
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
The only criticism is that the bike costs $11,000 but that is only a value problem if one does not see the value in the item or does not have $11,000.
says the rich guy
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
To start, the frame is made by Time. What does the cheapest Time frame go for - $2-3k at retail? Factor in the low-production numbers and you've got a hell of an expensive frame.
Still means nothing. But I see things differently I guess. Hey, if the posers want a $11k beach comber then by all means pony up and spend that Jack! I am all for stupid people departing with their money.
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Originally Posted by YOJiMBO20
But it's BLUE! Or since they're French, c'est BLEU!
Sacre bleu!
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Originally Posted by Cyclelogikal
Still means nothing. But I see things differently I guess.
Someone can barely procure a Taiwanese, open mold, direct-to-consumer CF frame for $600, and you think that an entire bike, with a frame that's low volume and made in France by a company that weaves their own CF, should squeak in at that price? Yes, you do see things differently, but looking through ignorance-tinted glasses is nothing to be proud of.
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I just can't get over the fact they can produce a lighter bike for that kind of money, disc brake and cruiser bars and street wheels and tires and all. Under 18 lbs is what what I would expect. But I guess those who buy this bike aren't weight weenies. The badge and all that supple leather matter more.
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Originally Posted by double_stuf
says the rich guy
There are plenty of people on here who are not "rich" that can justify buying a bike that is, perhaps in someone else's eyes, more than they "need".

Who is to judge how people spend their money? This is not Soviet Russia is it? No, it's not Soviet Russia.
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For all the terrorists in the thread who hate freedom, you're grandpa Karl Marx will be rolling in his grave when he gets a load of the $17,000 Chanel Bike https://www.purseblog.com/chanel-bags...l-bicycle.html or the Gucci "hipster" bike: https://www.stylehive.com/bookmark/gucci-luggage-583565

But all of this pales into comparison to the person who bought the Damien Hirst Trek for $500,000:
https://www.bornrich.com/world-s-most...ious-ride.html
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
For all the terrorists in the thread who hate freedom, you're grandpa Karl Marx will be rolling in his grave when he gets a load of the $17,000 Chanel Bike https://www.purseblog.com/chanel-bags...l-bicycle.html or the Gucci "hipster" bike: https://www.stylehive.com/bookmark/gucci-luggage-583565

But all of this pales into comparison to the person who bought the Damien Hirst Trek for $500,000:
https://www.bornrich.com/world-s-most...ious-ride.html
I don't think they are related, but whatever
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Originally Posted by dalava
I just can't get over the fact they can produce a lighter bike for that kind of money, disc brake and cruiser bars and street wheels and tires and all. Under 18 lbs is what what I would expect. But I guess those who buy this bike aren't weight weenies. The badge and all that supple leather matter more.
How many frames do you think that these guys are pumping out? Do you know how much molds cost? If they were doing Trek numbers, sure, the cost of individual frames would be less as they amortize the cost of the molds and tooling over larger numbers, but that's not going to happen here; exclusivity has a real price, here - it's not just cachet.
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Looking elsewhere, I've gotta say that, although I'd never dream of spending the money on it, these are pretty cool. It looks as if the rear fender is not only CF, but is also a part of the frame. I like the Gates belt drive, too.

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Originally Posted by WhyFi
How many frames do you think that these guys are pumping out? Do you know how much molds cost? If they were doing Trek numbers, sure, the cost of individual frames would be less as they amortize the cost of the molds and tooling over larger numbers, but that's not going to happen here; exclusivity has a real price, here - it's not just cachet.
I get it. And obviously you are very well versed in manufacturing cost. But somehow I don't think the price of this bike has ANYTHING to do with the cost of the limited production.
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I find this amusing...as I said in another thread about this bike...you do realize a Hermes handbag runs around $12,000? Sorry to say folks, but there is a market for luxury goods with brand names.

Sure it might be extravagant to us but to others, dropping $11k on a bike is no different than us picking up a bikes direct bike for $300.
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
For all the terrorists in the thread who hate freedom, you're grandpa Karl Marx will be rolling in his grave when he gets a load of the $17,000 Chanel Bike https://www.purseblog.com/chanel-bags...l-bicycle.html or the Gucci "hipster" bike: https://www.stylehive.com/bookmark/gucci-luggage-583565

But all of this pales into comparison to the person who bought the Damien Hirst Trek for $500,000:
https://www.bornrich.com/world-s-most...ious-ride.html
Geez Louise, I think anyone with the disposable income should buy that if they want to.

It's not what I would do if I had the spare change.

I'd get a nice road bike with Gruber assist. I'd take time off and go cross-country on it. No tents for me. I'd go credit card touring.

But each to his own.
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I get it. And obviously you are very well versed in manufacturing cost. But somehow I don't think the price of this bike has ANYTHING to do with the cost of the limited production.
Obviously not. When the cost of developing a mold and a production process is tens of thousands of dollars (per model, per size), the production volume is a big factor of the final price.
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Originally Posted by Cyclelogikal
Hey, if the posers want a $11k beach comber then by all means pony up and spend that Jack! I am all for stupid people departing with their money.
What we normal peons elect to forget is that there are thousands of people out there with more money than they know what to do with. Spending money is a thrill to them, the faster the better, gets the juices flowing.

They're not stupid, they just have a huge cache of disposable assets, and it's something difficult for us working slobs to wrap our brains around.

Money is no object for the filthy rich.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Obviously not. When the cost of developing a mold and a production process is tens of thousands of dollars (per model, per size), the production volume is a big factor of the final price.
I don't buy it either. I'm a cost accountant at a large aerospace manufacturer. Even at hundreds of thousands of dollars per mold and a production run of less than a thousand there is no way to justify the markup of this bike to the molds alone. The profit margin is likely massive on these.
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