kyoto now

To Convert the standard (53/39) Hollowgram crank on my 2013 Supersix Evo to compact, would I only need the 110 BCD Hollowgram spider and new chain rings?

gc3

Correct

kyoto now

Thank you

rpenmanparker 

Don't newer (?) models of Shimano cranks allow use of the same spider with either standard or compact rings? OP I assume your crank predates this, right?

gc3

I think he is talking about Cannondale cranks. If not, then of course you have to buy a whole new shimano compact crankset or go to some other brands.

But you're right, the very latest 9000/6800 do allow the use of different ringsets with the same arms & spider. Provided you buy the proprietary shimano rings.

SpeshulEd 

If you don't want to run the spider rings, get one of these and a set of compact chainrings:
https://www.cannondaleexperts.com/Can...693_p_132.html

If you want to run spider rings, don't bother with the spider and just get the rings:
https://www.cannondaleexperts.com/Can...45_p_1750.html

I have no affiliation with that website, but it's nice for looking at cannondale parts. You can probably find the parts cheaper elsewhere though. That said, the spider rings for $250 isn't too bad of a deal. I think I paid $375 for both sets.

Keep in mind you'll need both the KT012 and KT013 tools to remove the crankset from the BB and the crank from the spider.
https://www.cannondaleexperts.com/Can...012_p_123.html
https://www.cannondaleexperts.com/Can...013_p_124.html

danvuquoc

You will also need a big bolt/nut/washers to press down KT012 down tight enough onto the drive side crank to actually turn it, otherwise the tool will just slip right off. Both tools as well as the bottom bracket cup tools should also be included with the bicycle.

danvuquoc

Why didn't your bike come with both? All Supersix Evos come with both sets of spiderings on the 2013 models, and both sets of 110/130bcd spiders on the 2012 and below?

kyoto now

I bought it used. Also, I noticed that the '13 Red Racing edition was the "lowest" end Evo that listed it came with both standard and compact cranks.

danvuquoc

Ah okay sorry the 2013 lineup is confusing

carpediemracing 

A tip on using the KT012 - put the tool in a vise. Put the crank on the tool. Turn.

If you have a vise then it's all good. If not… a big bolt/nut/washers clamp works as described ^.

SpeshulEd 

This information would have been very helpful about 2 months ago. I didn't have a vice and was just using a large socket wrench, no big bolt/nut/washers. It took me about an hour to get the damn thing off, with countless slips. You should have seen how mangled my hands were. I ended up spraying wd40 on it, to loosen the locktite, then a few more good pushes and it finally came loose.

Mine didn't come with both either, you had the option of picking compact or standard. I bought the ultegra di2 model, but it was also clearanced as well. I did get the di2 chargers and whatnot, but no tools for removal, and no spiders/rings. I got the standard spider and the fsa rings, but then found both sets of spiderrings, brand new, and for sale for $375 on weight weenies, so I grabbed them.

carpediemracing 

The vise trick works for anything where you have a smaller tool with a larger part, like a freewheel (not cassette) remover with a wheel or various BB tools and a frame. The idea is that the large part acts as the lever. It's actually incredibly easy to loosen stuff.

If you have a large wrench then putting the wrench (with tool) on the floor and stepping on the wrench will sometimes work. If you do that then the big bolt/washers/nut helps to keep things from slipping.

SpeshulEd 

Yeah, I actually considered buying a vice, but this was 9pm on Saturday night and I was going to get it to work one way or the other so I could ride in the morning.

After messing with it for almost an hour and gashing my hand open several times on the chainring teeth, I ended up taking the chainrings off the spider and breaking out the wd40. Then it came off fairly easily.

My dad was a mechanic...I can't remember how many times he told me to always have the right tools for the job. I'm learning that over and over again as I get older.


I'm about to do this all over again when I finally get a different crankset for my mtb. It'd be faster to just take it to the shop, but I enjoy doing the work myself.

danvuquoc

One of these days when I buy a home out here in the bay area (laughing) I will have space for a vise still a dream for now.