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prostuff 12-02-13 09:41 AM

Can road bikes handle a 2.000+ km trip?
 
Road bike for touring, basically. I will have a repair kit with me if need be. I plan on buying the Felt Z95 for the trip, if this helps.

merlinextraligh 12-02-13 09:57 AM

How much gear re you planning to take, and how do you plan on hauling it?

The logistics of your trip are a lot diffrent if you're planning on carrying a change of clothes and a credit card, versus fully loaded with camping gear.

canam73 12-02-13 09:59 AM

I typically get well over 2k km between tune ups, but like all riding it is going to be dependent on individual loading and terrain and also the condition of individual components. Wheels & tires and brakes are where touring bikes and road bikes generally have the biggest component differences. Are they up to the task?

Also, will you be comfortable enough? And will you be able to pack enough gear without the mounts found on touring bikes?

prostuff 12-02-13 10:03 AM

I was thinking of attaching a rack to the seat and putting a backpack on it that won't weigh more than 6 kg fully loaded.

canam73 12-02-13 10:09 AM

Well, there are good reasons touring cycles are built and loaded the way they are.

I would post this question in the touring forum. At the very least you may get some good tips on how to best set up a road bike for touring.

10 Wheels 12-02-13 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by prostuff (Post 16293906)
I was thinking of attaching a rack to the seat and putting a backpack on it that won't weigh more than 6 kg fully loaded.

You can do that.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=353558

10 Wheels 12-02-13 10:23 AM

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Buy a bike that takes a rear rack.

Planning 1100 mile tour in march.

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Bandera 12-02-13 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by prostuff (Post 16293906)
I was thinking of attatching a rack to the seat and putting a backpack on it that won't wheigh more than 6 kg fully loaded.

A backpack can be pure misery after a short while.
Total load will define your requirements, there is indeed a good reason why touring rigs have the fittings for racks & doo-dads.

That being said, "back when" the bikes for serious club riders were light and responsive but would take mudguards and a rack for weekend touring or Brevets. Seems like much of today's production would require a follow car for trips that were self supported not long ago.

Here's a pic of a modern club rider's design fitted for a bit of carrying capacity and a classic randonneur as well.
Adding a handlebar bag & a rear rack takes minutes on/off but not a CF wunder-bike.

-Bandera

NoTrail 12-02-13 11:14 AM

I took my Roubaix for an 11 day, 1100 mile (~1770 km) ride down the coast a couple of years ago. We only carried water, our wallets and basic tools. But we had a chase vehicle that we met up with every 20 miles or so for fresh water, food, supplies, etc. So if you have that luxury, I'd say no problem at all. If you don't have a chase car, just make sure you have enough supplies for the route you're taking. Needing something and having no means to acquire it is not a good situation.

bhchdh 12-02-13 11:20 AM

You may want to consider a trailer to get the load off of the bike. There are several, both two and single wheeled, that are regularly used by long distanc tourers.

Drew Eckhardt 12-02-13 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by prostuff (Post 16293842)
Road bike for touring, basically. I will have a repair kit with me if need be. I plan on buying the Felt Z95 for the trip, if this helps.

Sure, but you'll be happier if you can put the weight lower on the bike using a rack and have fenders to keep rain off.

gsa103 12-02-13 12:18 PM

What keeps the rack from rotating around the seat post? Just a good hard clamp?

Also, 6kg is very close to the limit for a typical seat-post rack. With 1kg for a bag, basically you're looking at basic repair kit plus change of a clothes. Any more than that and you'll need a real touring rack solution.

The Felt Z95 is a less than ideal choice. Its an aluminum frame but lacks braze-ons, which many Al frames have. In your situation, I would look at an alternative bike, unless you're getting a killer deal. The Trek 1 series is very similar but has integrated rack mounts.

10 Wheels 12-02-13 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by gsa103 (Post 16294329)
What keeps the rack from rotating around the seat post? Just a good hard clamp? Also, 6kg is very close to the limit for a typical seat-post rack. With 1kg for a bag, basically you're looking at basic repair kit plus change of a clothes. Any more than that and you'll need a real touring rack solution. The Felt Z95 is a less than ideal choice. Its an aluminum frame but lacks braze-ons, which many Al frames have. In your situation, I would look at an alternative bike, unless you're getting a killer deal. The Trek 1 series is very similar but has integrated rack mounts.

I used a Topeak Mountain bike rack with a quick release for about 30,000 miles. It Clamps on real tight.

blacknbluebikes 12-02-13 12:25 PM

you'll get your money's worth out of this:
http://www.amazon.com/Adventure-Cycl.../dp/1905864256

10 Wheels 12-02-13 12:32 PM

Carried a tent on the down tube.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...r/IMG_3074.jpg

George 12-02-13 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 16293956)
Buy a bike that takes a rear rack.

Planning 1100 mile tour in march.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=353562

Where are you going?

vwchad 12-02-13 01:10 PM

I'm sure it can be done, but as it has been pointed out, the Felt lacks the mounts for a rack and fenders. Good bike otherwise. You can always make a rack or fenders fit, it is simply a matter of how clever you are.

indyfabz 12-02-13 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bandera (Post 16294109)
A backpack can be pure misery after a short while.

The OP wrote he plans on attaching a rack and puttng a backpack on "it," i.e., on the rack, not his back.

OP: Make sure yoy have sufficient low gearing. Even 13 lbs. will feel like something, especially on hills. A trailer would not be my first choice with so little weight. For example, the B.O.B. with dry bag is 18 lbs. alone. If you go with racks and panniers, make sure you have enough heel clearence. Shorter chainstays combined with big feet increase the potential.

darb85 12-02-13 01:40 PM

nope itll asplode

prostuff 12-02-13 01:48 PM

I will definitely not get a trailer. I'm gonna stick to my initial plan for now - attach a rack to the seat. The Felt Z95 might not even be the bike I'll buy in the end so I still have time to find a ~650€ bike that allows the addition of a rear rack. I'll get my hands on real money only in April and that's when I'll buy everything I would need to start my life as a cyclist ^.^ (-including a device with navigation, probably Touring Edge).


Originally Posted by darb85 (Post 16294600)
nope itll asplode

Lol.

prathmann 12-02-13 01:50 PM

I'm not a fan of the seatpost-mounted racks, especially when loaded that heavily on a long tour. Seems like a long cantilever that puts quite a bit of extra load on the post so make sure the post is strong enough. I've also seen a number of these racks swing sideways. There are racks that attach to the quick release axle at the bottom and to either the brake bridge hole or to p-clamps around the seat stays at the top (Old Man Mountain is one maker of these). I'd recommend using one of these instead of a seatpost rack.

rebel1916 12-02-13 01:50 PM

It's doable, but it's probably not the best tool for the job.

Long Tom 12-02-13 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by prostuff (Post 16294630)
I will definitely not get a trailer. I'm gonna stick to my initial plan for now - attach a rack to the seat. The Felt Z95 might not even be the bike I'll buy in the end so I still have time to find a ~650€ bike that allows the addition of a rear rack. I'll get my hands on real money only in April and that's when I'll buy everything I would need to start my life as a cyclist ^.^ (-including a device with navigation, probably Touring Edge).



Lol.

"Start"? Yikes. IMHO you'll want to bank a couple thousand miles minimum (in 20-100 mile chunks) on a bike before setting out on a big tour like that. You'll have numerous fit issues to sort out and likely some body issues too.

prostuff 12-02-13 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Long Tom (Post 16294744)
"Start"? Yikes. IMHO you'll want to bank a couple thousand miles minimum (in 20-100 mile chunks) on a bike before setting out on a big tour like that. You'll have numerous fit issues to sort out and likely some body issues too.

My bad for the misunderstanding. I will be doing the tour after I practice with smaller ones. The 2.000 km trip is pretty much a straight shot from Romania to England (after I tour every country on the way, one per trip). I'm just hoping that I get the hang of riding a road bike quickly because I would very much enjoy visiting the vast majority of European countries in the span of 6 months.

arcticbiker 12-02-13 02:52 PM

I own several road bikes and considered seriously about using one on my recent cross country trip. I finally decided to purchase a touring bike and used a rear rack. I am really glad I made that decision due to the comfortable ride it garnered. Other advantages include slighter wider tires (28mm), relaxed geometry for those 6 to 8 hours days, MTB cogset for climbing mountains (Appalachians, Rockies, etc. while carrying a load and road bike brakes/shifters, and comfort and durability over bumpy roads. I went with a steel frame which helped ease the harshness of the ride. On the down side, the bike slowed me down about 3 MPH on the flats. 4200 miles of riding pleasure without any mechanical issues. Changed brake pads once, and tires once.


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