Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Rema Tip Top Patch Kits

Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Rema Tip Top Patch Kits

Old 01-22-14, 04:27 PM
  #1  
Clipped_in
Rubber side down
Thread Starter
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,592

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 18 Posts
Rema Tip Top Patch Kits

Question for you tube patching gurus. The Rema patch kits (excellent patch kits BTW) come with a 1"x1/8" OD piece of rubber tubing. What is the tubing for?
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 04:29 PM
  #2  
datlas 
Beyond Bogus
 
datlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 28,312

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 387 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8554 Post(s)
Liked 98 Times in 59 Posts
Boot?
__________________
Originally Posted by RUOkie View Post
never underestimate the idiocy of BF.
Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Addiction is all about class.
Originally Posted by seedsbelize View Post
Better to just stay out of the 41
datlas is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 04:33 PM
  #3  
Clipped_in
Rubber side down
Thread Starter
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,592

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 18 Posts
It looks like a thin piece of macaroni. Not seeing how it could be used as a boot, but thanks for playing.
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 04:38 PM
  #4  
datlas 
Beyond Bogus
 
datlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 28,312

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 387 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8554 Post(s)
Liked 98 Times in 59 Posts
Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
It looks like a thin piece of macaroni. Not seeing how it could be used as a boot, but thanks for playing.
Ok maybe not. Some kits come with a boot.
__________________
Originally Posted by RUOkie View Post
never underestimate the idiocy of BF.
Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Addiction is all about class.
Originally Posted by seedsbelize View Post
Better to just stay out of the 41
datlas is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 04:42 PM
  #5  
Clipped_in
Rubber side down
Thread Starter
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,592

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 18 Posts
Sure, and that was a reasonable guess. I found a pic of the contents, including the tubing:



The instructions make no metion of the tubing.

Last edited by Clipped_in; 01-22-14 at 04:46 PM.
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 04:45 PM
  #6  
Bandera 
~>~
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: TX Hill Country
Posts: 5,803
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1057 Post(s)
Liked 74 Times in 47 Posts
Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
Question for you tube patching gurus. The Rema patch kits (excellent patch kits BTW) come with a 1"x1/8" OD piece of rubber tubing. What is the tubing for?

It's a "Glue-Smearer" or "Leimauftragmaschine", which no one in history has ever used.

-Bandera
__________________
'74 Raleigh Internat'l. '77 Trek TX900 FG. '90 Vitus 979. '10 Merckx EMX3. '13 Soma Stanyan
Bandera is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 04:47 PM
  #7  
datlas 
Beyond Bogus
 
datlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 28,312

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 387 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8554 Post(s)
Liked 98 Times in 59 Posts
Interesting. Even the Rema website does not mention it...cut/paste from website:

Each kit includes the following:
• 6 round tube patches
• 1 oval tube patch
• 1 emery paper
• 1 tube of CFC-free cement
__________________
Originally Posted by RUOkie View Post
never underestimate the idiocy of BF.
Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Addiction is all about class.
Originally Posted by seedsbelize View Post
Better to just stay out of the 41
datlas is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 04:49 PM
  #8  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Use the tubing to spread the glue. Your fingers have oils that can effect the bond with the patch.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:06 PM
  #9  
njkayaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 11,061
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1700 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 14 Posts
Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
It's a "Glue-Smearer" or "Leimauftragmaschine", which no one in history has ever used.
This.

Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
Use the tubing to spread the glue. Your fingers have oils that can effect the bond with the patch.
Spread the glue as you apply it from the tube.
njkayaker is online now  
Old 01-22-14, 05:06 PM
  #10  
Clipped_in
Rubber side down
Thread Starter
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,592

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 18 Posts
Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
It's a "Glue-Smearer" or "Leimauftragmaschine", which no one in history has ever used.

-Bandera
Ok, I get it. I've patched many tubes without using it producing excellent results, and I don't plan to start now. Mystery solved!
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:14 PM
  #11  
Bandera 
~>~
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: TX Hill Country
Posts: 5,803
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1057 Post(s)
Liked 74 Times in 47 Posts
Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
Ok, I get it. I've patched many tubes without using it producing excellent results, and I don't plan to start now. Mystery solved!
I have an extensive collection of Rema Leimauftragmaschines from every era of production.
They only exist in two conditions: "NOS/Perfect/Un-used" or "Lost-on-Roadside/Who-cares".

-Bandera
__________________
'74 Raleigh Internat'l. '77 Trek TX900 FG. '90 Vitus 979. '10 Merckx EMX3. '13 Soma Stanyan
Bandera is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:17 PM
  #12  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
Spread the glue as you apply it from the tube.
the OP asked what it's for, and I answered the question. I never said it's necessarily the only way to do it properly.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:25 PM
  #13  
datlas 
Beyond Bogus
 
datlas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 28,312

Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix

Mentioned: 387 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8554 Post(s)
Liked 98 Times in 59 Posts
Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
the OP asked what it's for, and I answered the question. I never said it's necessarily the only way to do it properly.
Thank you for your contribution to the collective's knowlege base.
__________________
Originally Posted by RUOkie View Post
never underestimate the idiocy of BF.
Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Addiction is all about class.
Originally Posted by seedsbelize View Post
Better to just stay out of the 41
datlas is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:35 PM
  #14  
BoSoxYacht
Banned
 
BoSoxYacht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
Posts: 7,282

Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Thank you for your contribution to the collective's knowlege base.
I'm glad I could help. It was clear that you didn't have the answer.
BoSoxYacht is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:39 PM
  #15  
shelbyfv
Senior Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 5,271
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1104 Post(s)
Liked 137 Times in 91 Posts
Not a spreader, it's for Dunlop valve.
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:46 PM
  #16  
Clipped_in
Rubber side down
Thread Starter
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,592

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 18 Posts
Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Not a spreader, it's for Dunlop valve.
Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a winner. Sheldon knew all along: See Woods Valve

I guess they're common in Germany?
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:52 PM
  #17  
prathmann
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
Posts: 7,243
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 657 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Not a spreader, it's for Dunlop valve.
Finally a correct answer. The wheels on my 'Swedish Canoe Cart' that I bought from LL Bean came with a Wood's (aka Dunlop) valve that had one of those little rubber tubes inside. The valve could be inflated with a regular Presta pump but eventually one of them failed due to that rubber piece wearing out. None of my patch kits had the little tube anymore, but Sheldon Brown was nice enough to send me a piece of the rubber tubing.
prathmann is offline  
Old 01-22-14, 05:53 PM
  #18  
njkayaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 11,061
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1700 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 14 Posts
Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
the OP asked what it's for, and I answered the question. I never said it's necessarily the only way to do it properly.
You recommended it. If that's not what you meant, then you failed to use the right words.

Equivalently, I never said you couldn't use the rubber tube or that what I recommended (intentionally) was "necessarily the only way to do it". I doubt that many people use the rubber tube for that anyway.

Bizarre.

Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
Use the tubing to spread the glue. Your fingers have oils that can effect the bond with the patch.
njkayaker is online now  
Old 01-22-14, 05:57 PM
  #19  
njkayaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 11,061
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1700 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 14 Posts
Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
Ding, ding, ding! I think we have a winner. Sheldon knew all along: See Woods Valve

I guess they're common in Germany?
Sheldon Brown indicates that there are newer versions that don't use the tube.

Originally Posted by sheldon
Older versions work with rubber tubing and spit. If they don't hold air, you can unscrew the knurled ring that holds the valve core (the "Presta-sized" part) in place. You should see a short length of rubber tubing covering the inner part of the core. If the rubber tubing has deteriorated,, the valve won't work. Some patch kits include short lengths of replacement rubber tubing for this purpose. When installing new tubing, lubricate the valve core with spit before slipping the tubing in place.
Newer versions use a modern spring-loaded valve mechanism.
Google seems to indicate that people still run across the values.

https://www.google.com/search?q=wood...m=122&ie=UTF-8

This is a discussion about them.

http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-3636.html

And it's been asked before.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/gen...it-194668.html

Last edited by njkayaker; 01-22-14 at 06:02 PM.
njkayaker is online now  
Old 01-22-14, 09:49 PM
  #20  
GuitarBob
Kit doesn't match
 
GuitarBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 1,025

Bikes: 5

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 172 Post(s)
Liked 15 Times in 7 Posts
OP, thanks for asking about that bit of tubing. I've been carrying them around for years, for no reason at all, and wondering...

Last edited by GuitarBob; 01-22-14 at 10:42 PM.
GuitarBob is online now  
Old 01-22-14, 09:52 PM
  #21  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 15,158

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3627 Post(s)
Liked 79 Times in 71 Posts
Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Not a spreader, it's for Dunlop valve.
No. 1 (or a Woods valve), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_stem. But the other answers are more amusing.
bikemig is offline  
Old 01-23-14, 02:58 AM
  #22  
rpenmanparker 
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,405

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6346 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
I don't suppose my method of throwing away punctured tubes rather than patching them is going to be very well accepted on this thread. Sigh! Yes, I know about the thorns some folks suffer with.

BTW only a small fraction of presta tubes made in Asia that I see in the USA have removable (or rebuildable) cores, much less rubber tubes inside them. Just sayin' I don't think as time goes on that little do-dad is going to be of much relevance.

Robert
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 01-23-14, 03:55 AM
  #23  
Ice41000
Senior Member
 
Ice41000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 502
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
Question for you tube patching gurus. The Rema patch kits (excellent patch kits BTW) come with a 1"x1/8" OD piece of rubber tubing. What is the tubing for?
Replacement rubber tube for Dunlop valves:
Like this:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/46...showimage.html
Ice41000 is offline  
Old 01-23-14, 09:09 AM
  #24  
Clipped_in
Rubber side down
Thread Starter
 
Clipped_in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Teh Quickie Mart
Posts: 1,592

Bikes: are fun! :-)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 23 Times in 18 Posts
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
I don't suppose my method of throwing away punctured tubes rather than patching them is going to be very well accepted on this thread. Sigh!
To be honest, I doubt anyone besides you cares what you do with your tubes... Just sayin'.
Clipped_in is offline  
Old 01-23-14, 09:35 AM
  #25  
rpenmanparker 
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,405

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 103 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6346 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Clipped_in View Post
To be honest, I doubt anyone besides you cares what you do with your tubes... Just sayin'.
Surely you're right, but it would be so much nicer if you would just be dishonest and tell me how useful my comment was. Just sayin'.

Of course my comment wasn't really about what I do with my tubes, but rather about what other folks also could choose to do with theirs. Even the smallest Rema patch is bigger in diameter than a flattened, small cross section, light weight 700c tube. So the edges of the patch extend off the edges of the tube when you press them flat together. I found the only possible way to make it work was to roll the patch and tube together between my fingers. I know most folks have success patching such tubes, but I found it very hard to get the edges to adhere properly. And if the edges don't adhere right, the whole patch job is subject to failure. Sure I patched tubes for years and years. I finally just decided that for about $6 replacement cost four or five times a year at most, it wasn't worth it to try to reuse the old punctured tube. Heresy, I know, but very effective.

Robert
rpenmanparker is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.