SirHustlerEsq

Then get a 105 Domane.

I love Cervelo bikes, rode one for about 10 miles and it was really nice, but I'm not paying $2600 for a 105 bike with an FSA poverty crank.

dangerd

I have a Madone 3.1 and love it, although I did upgrade the wheelset. The 3.1 is 105 in the back and tiagra in the front but shifts great. That S2 is nice though and has the ultegra on it which would be nice too.
Do what others suggest, ride both on a long enough test and see what feels best to you. I can say though that the Trek is a nice bike.

floridamtb

cisnal... Trek doesn't get love because here because many are snobs and want to blame Trek for Lance Armstrong. Anyone that buys or doesn't buy a bike brand because someone that cheated rode it is really selling themselves short. ALL brands have had cheaters. But many give some great advice outside of that, ride them and pick the one that feels best. I have a 2013 Trek Madone 4.5 that I bought this past summer for $1995 during the TDF sale. I rode Trek, Specialized, and Cannondale. I chose Trek because 1. it felt the best (but only slightly) and 2. I got a real good feel for the staff at the store. Basically if it had come down to a tie Trek would have won just for the store itself and that has already paid off.

Good luck!

Jiggle

If it doesn't have 6800 for that price, don't buy it.

v70cat

The S5 is very aero and still provides all the benefits of the R.

jeffmiller887

Also, the wheels on the Madone 4.5 are upgraded significantly from the 4.3 that's offered right now. The 2013 4.5 is almost identical to the 2014 4.7-- just without internal cable routing and the 2013 frame rather than the "new improved" 2014 frame. If you're not racing, the 2013 and 2014 wont make any difference to you.

I just bought myself a 2013 4.5 a few days ago for $2000 so make sure you shop around.

fietsbob

Lots more Trek dealers than the other one , Cervelo have a lifetime frame warrantee?

If the Component parts are all the same, they will be.

warpdrive

The 4.5 was a mix of 105/Ultegra/nonseries drivetrain and I’m guessing that’s why they decided to drop the 4.5 and offer a 4.7 with a pure Ultegra 11 speed group.

I was in the same boat, I actually bought a Domane 4.5 for a lot cheaper than the current 4.7 and except for the 11 speed, it is functionally equivalent to the current 2014 4.7.

I did have some extra xmas bonus cash leftover so I did replace that R565 crank and the 105 brakes for the heck of it though

floridamtb

What crankset did you switch to and how's it feel compared to the R565? I'm debating doing the same but not sure if I'll really notice anything different.

warpdrive

@floridamtb

I moved to the ultegra crank. The Ultegra uses their hollowtech chainset which is a solid hollow structure for the chainring. It’s supposed to flex a lot less (so my more powerful friends keep claiming) than the cranks with separate chainrings.

I don’t know if I’ll feel the difference but it bugged me that Trek advertised that the 4.5 had an "Ultegra drivetrain" when it was far from true. Now the bike looks like it was supposed to

While I was at it, I changed over to the 6800 brakes as well

floridamtb

Nice looking bike! Couple of questions... how do you keep your bar tape so white and what saddle is that?

warpdrive

Selle SLR Max Gel Flow
The whole bike is pretty new. The tape is a bit dirty but you can’t see it in this picture. I want to get rid of the white tape to match the saddle

floridamtb

I thought about changing my white tape but a mockup of the bike with black tape changed my mind. I guess I just need to learn how to wrap my own bars, I wipe them off pretty good after each ride but they still show the dirt and grime after only 6 months of riding.

v70cat

At a given price point the frames all seem about the same. Except for Aero design which is a new concept and you still have some differences.

A 105 on one brand or another is the same except some cheap out on the brakes and crank.

The idea that one name is so much better than another brand is marketing. Most people on this board all think the brand they own is the best.

warpdrive

I don't like dingy white colored stuff so my white striped tires had to go too LOL.

You could probably get away with red tape with a black seat.

timmbo

How about neither? I saw a 2012 Trek 4.6 with Rival for $1849. That is a killer deal if you like Sram as much as I do!

v70cat

Sram is good once again at a given price point they all are about the same.

kv501

Black bearing cover, spacers, stem, top cap, bar tape, cables, and saddle.

That rear brake housing is way too long, so there's your excuse to re-cable it.

Oh and ditch the whitewalls.

Should just about do it.

warpdrive

had to check.....for a second, I thought I was in the hot r not thread.

coasting 

cervelo.

coasting 

or trek.


trek is good too.