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eja_ bottecchia 02-16-14 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Wesley36 (Post 16500026)
/sorry, I didn't make it political, but I cannot let this kind of propaganda pass without comment. I am not a Castro supporter, but I do like truth.

[sarcasm]
Not like there has been political violence in Chile, or Argentina, or El Salvador, or Honduras, or Nicaragua, or Haiti, or Panama, or Columbia, or Guatemala, or any number of countries with comparable economies and histories.

That is also why only Cubans risk life and limb to make it to the USA - because Castro made it bad. Before Castro Cuba was a haven of political liberties, free speech, free assembly, etc. Certainly no summary executions, arbitrary imprisoning, or torture in Batista times. And Batista must have been elected, right?[/sarcasm]

Perhaps you would like to make your home in Castro's Paradise. Your comments are offensive to everyone who has suffered under Castro's ruthless dictatorship.

I normally don't like to get into political discussions on BF, that's not why I come here. But your comments, including the use of "sarcasm" reflect an abysmally myopic and ignorant view of Latin America history.

Remember this my friend: Sarcasm is the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt.

FLvector 02-16-14 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 16498893)
How do you manage to wear out a big chainring ?

Most of my riding is in areas with rolling hills and not much elevation (<300 ft), so most (>80%) of the time riding is spent in the big ring. My big ring was also becoming shark toothed.

BoSoxYacht 02-16-14 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 16499985)
Not that you wear out a ring, but that it is the big ring. Folks who have a 12 tooth, 2nd to smallest cog in the back and turn high cadence (~95 rpm) spend more time on the small ring (potentially up to almost 25 mph) and wear that out faster. Also the small ring has fewer teeth and wears out faster for that reason too. Your experience suggests that you turn the crank a little slower OR you ride much faster. No matter. Lots of valid riding styles.

I run a 50T big ring with a 12-23 cassette. Most of the time I spin at about 86rpm, in the 15-18 cogs.

West of Phoenix is pretty darn flat, and the hills that we do have are short sprints. I'd rather crosschain it for a moment, than shift into the small ring.

Wesley36 02-16-14 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia (Post 16500090)
Perhaps you would like to make your home in Castro's Paradise. Your comments are offensive to everyone who has suffered under Castro's ruthless dictatorship.

I normally don't like to get into political discussions on BF, that's not why I come here. But your comments, including the use of "sarcasm" reflect an abysmally myopic and ignorant view of Latin America history.

+1 on political discussions on BF, I hope this post better explains my position, but I have no desire for a back and forth. Hopefully this strikes a better tone than my previous post, I suspect we will agree to disagree.

Never said I liked or supported Castro in any way. You might disagree, but the point is simple and well-supported by the historical record - political violence, intimidation, and suppression of political opposition has been a part of political life in Latin America and the Caribbean for quite some time, long before communism appeared on the scene. In Cuba specifically, there was a long history of political violence, intimidation, and the suppression of political opposition long before Castro (and, for that matter, before Batista). Life in Cuba would probably not involve political liberty, or a good standard of living if Castro had never been born, any more than not being communist has given any number of other Latin American countries political liberty or a good standard of living. There is a deficit of both things in Latin America, under the control of all sorts of different governments.

Acknowledging this historical reality does not make one a Castro supporter. Right wing suppression has generally been worse, according to the academic historical literature (the Dirty War in Argentina and Pinochet's Chile represent probably the most intensive and extensive episodes of severe suppression), but it is bad whether suppression and violence is happening in the name of communism, or republicanism, or anti-communism, or whatever. To lay all of these problems at Castro's feet, or the feet of communism, is just not adequate.

One of the basic elements of cause and effect is that the cause is prior in time to the effect. Political violence and suppression were a feature of political life in Latin America long before communism was a social force. I am not sure what else there is to say.

WhyFi 02-16-14 09:57 AM

"+1 on political discussions" followed by three paragraphs of political discussion. :rolleyes:

WhyFi 02-16-14 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 16500241)
"+1 on political discussions" followed by three paragraphs of political discussion. :rolleyes:

That's almost as good as, "I have no desire to go back and forth, but I would like to expound on why I'm right and you're wrong."

Dudelsack 02-16-14 10:27 AM

When I saw this thread I thought it was going to be something like " I'm 5'2" and I just spent $3000 on an imported Italian frame and didn't notice it was size 60 cm."

It's just a "my chainring is off one tooth and all I got was a lousy T-shirt."

We we all really need a warm spell. If you're from SoCal you have no excuse.

Urymoto 02-16-14 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Wesley36 (Post 16500026)
/sorry, I didn't make it political, but I cannot let this kind of propaganda pass without comment. I am not a Castro supporter, but I do like truth.

[sarcasm]
Not like there has been political violence in Chile, or Argentina, or El Salvador, or Honduras, or Nicaragua, or Haiti, or Panama, or Columbia, or Guatemala, or any number of countries with comparable economies and histories.

That is also why only Cubans risk life and limb to make it to the USA - because Castro made it bad. Before Castro Cuba was a haven of political liberties, free speech, free assembly, etc. Certainly no summary executions, arbitrary imprisoning, or torture in Batista times. And Batista must have been elected, right?[/sarcasm]

Cuba is great. Only place where you can ride in peace. Ppl are nice, no traffic, little violence.

try riding in the dominican republic. Youll get killed.

Homebrew01 02-16-14 10:34 AM

Hey, look what I just found !

http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdispl...s-amp-Religion

gc3 02-16-14 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 16500252)
That's almost as good as, "I have no desire to go back and forth, but I would like to expound on why I'm right and you're wrong."

(sarcasm) he said, that makes it all okay...I at least recognize that I will never be right in any opinion I utter, and therefore feel unfettered by moral restraint...peace to all, yet also, viva la revolucion

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6...aggletooth.jpg

Dudelsack 02-16-14 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 16500324)

Eeeewwwwww!

That forum is where you go to learn how apolitical the mods are :lol:

bugly64 02-16-14 11:15 PM

I got the chainring used on a nice crankset, so I have no idea how many miles are on it. I have put over 3,000 miles on it. My bearded bike wizards at the LBS said I would not notice it. Btw, I'm kind of glad my avatar got discussed a lot, and not... I was hoping someone would debate me about my wife being the most wonderful person in the world.

muzpuf 02-16-14 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 16500324)


that is where posts go to die

muzpuf 02-16-14 11:27 PM

1 Attachment(s)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=364639 need I say more

coasting 02-17-14 02:01 AM

I have 52 and 53 on different bikes and riding the same route, I can't tell the difference.



Since there are 2 themes to this thread:
Who watches Fox news?

the fat climber 02-17-14 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by Pinkbullet3 (Post 16499741)
How is this a "big" oops in any way...? Surely, you can't be taking this THAT seriously.

Wrong "big chainring" = "big oops" I'm guessing. :p

the fat climber 02-17-14 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16497411)
52 tooth rings are commonly sized to 110 bcd... and you probably have 130. Does it fit?

FWIW Shimano have a 52 option for most of their 130bcd cranks.

Dudelsack 02-17-14 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 16501940)
I have 52 and 53 on different bikes and riding the same route, I can't tell the difference.



Since there are 2 themes to this thread:
Who watches Fox news?

:lol:


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