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Can anyone talk me out of getting a new bike?

Old 02-20-14, 08:58 AM
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I wouldn't do it, cycling sucks.
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Old 02-20-14, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Champlaincycler View Post
You might want to consider that this will be a short term purchase of 3-5 years.
Hoping to get 10 years out of it. That's why the Ultegra 6800 11-speed requirement and the more relaxed geometry and softer ride for as I age!

A few of the Trek factory team race on the Domane, even in non-classics type races, so that speaks volumes as to the success of the design of the frame for both compliance and performance.

I tried out a few pure performance bikes (TCR, Propel, R3 etc), and they felt twitchy, overly stiff and harsh compared to the Domane and Defy Advanced. The Synapse and Roubaix, on the other hand, did not seem to work for me.
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Old 02-20-14, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chasingthewind View Post
Hoping to get 10 years out of it. That's why the Ultegra 6800 11-speed requirement and the more relaxed geometry and softer ride for as I age!

A few of the Trek factory team race on the Domane, even in non-classics type races, so that speaks volumes as to the success of the design of the frame for both compliance and performance.

I tried out a few pure performance bikes (TCR, Propel, R3 etc), and they felt twitchy, overly stiff and harsh compared to the Domane and Defy Advanced. The Synapse and Roubaix, on the other hand, did not seem to work for me.
Trying to convince yourself that this will be a 10 year purchase is not gonna work. I thought my current roubaix was the cream of the crop and it was gonna last me 5 years, 1.3 years later I have a brand new bike to "complement it".
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Originally Posted by chasingthewind View Post
Hoping to get 10 years out of it. That's why the Ultegra 6800 11-speed requirement and the more relaxed geometry and softer ride for as I age!

A few of the Trek factory team race on the Domane, even in non-classics type races, so that speaks volumes as to the success of the design of the frame for both compliance and performance.

I tried out a few pure performance bikes (TCR, Propel, R3 etc), and they felt twitchy, overly stiff and harsh compared to the Domane and Defy Advanced. The Synapse and Roubaix, on the other hand, did not seem to work for me.
Yes, but it's not exactly the same frame.
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Old 02-20-14, 10:43 AM
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Buy it, ride it, wear it out.
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Old 02-20-14, 11:37 AM
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Just a few $k? I have always looked at a "few" as 3 lol.

That said why would anyone try and talk you out of getting something you want?.. Enjoy it and have fun.

For me any amount over 1k is really over kill. I could drop the money on any bike I wanted but if I can't really use what I buy then Ill pass. Still man it's a nice bike and I am excited for you!!
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Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
Yes, but it's not exactly the same frame.
Correct, its' not the same frame (geometry is different and so is the carbon), but it really speaks to the effectiveness of the Isospeed coupler.

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Old 02-20-14, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zinjack View Post
Just a few $k? I have always looked at a "few" as 3 lol.

That said why would anyone try and talk you out of getting something you want?.. Enjoy it and have fun.

For me any amount over 1k is really over kill. I could drop the money on any bike I wanted but if I can't really use what I buy then Ill pass. Still man it's a nice bike and I am excited for you!!
I figure it will cost me less than $4/ride over the life of the bike (10 years is still my target) ....

I guess the goal is to get the cheapest bike that I will REALLY WANT to ride a lot to get my money out of it and not have to worry about upgrading it in a few years.

So solid/smooth shifting, reliability, comfort, performance, fit, looks, price etc.
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As long as you have the budget for the cost of the bike and the test rides have been good, I don't see why not. I put an order in for a Domane Classics version myself

For what it's worth, the carbon is the same between the Domane 6 and the Classics Edition. Differences are: different geometry, different trail on the fork, more tire clearance, steel derailleur hanger, and missing fender mounts. Everything else is the same.
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Old 02-20-14, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chasingthewind View Post
Correct, its' not the same frame (geometry is different and so is the carbon), but it really speaks to the effectiveness of the Isospeed coupler.
Source, please. The head tube is much shorter on the Classics version and the forks are different than the regular Domane, making the Classics lower and quicker, but I think the lay up is the same 600 series carbon used in the Domane 6.
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Old 02-20-14, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tigat View Post
Source, please. The head tube is much shorter on the Classics version and the forks are different than the regular Domane, making the Classics lower and quicker, but I think the lay up is the same 600 series carbon used in the Domane 6.
I think the comparison is to the actual race bikes that Team Trek uses, not the consumer Classics version.

It is very likely the Domane race bike uses at least the same carbon in the Madone 7, and maybe something even higher tech (laid up in the US factory, not in Taiwan).
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To use an economist's term, it's about utility. What will a $5,000 bike do better than a $1,000 bike? Specifically, what does it do better for you? If every time you look at your Domane it will make you feel good or smile or have some sense of other fulfillment, then that's something that you could estimate a price on. Every time you shift, will the smooth shifting, mechanical precision give you that bit of joy? And so on. Just because these are just emotional reactions to a mechanical process doesn't make them any less real, when it comes to what is worth your money. You make not get through your ride or to your destination any faster or safer, but if something about it adds to your pleasure, then figure out what it's worth. If that feeling is worth more to you than the difference from a more utilitarian bike, then great. If not, then ask what else you could do with that extra money to bring you some measure of happiness? Look at your life and figure out what is going to give you the most happiness and spend there.
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Old 02-20-14, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chasingthewind View Post
I think the comparison is to the actual race bikes that Team Trek uses, not the consumer Classics version.

It is very likely the Domane race bike uses at least the same carbon in the Madone 7, and maybe something even higher tech (laid up in the US factory, not in Taiwan).
Having spent a bit of time at the factory, I'm pretty sure that's not true. Although there is a super secret team room that is closed to the tours, it's not a carbon layup facility. Otherwise, any tourist can watch the production of the 6 and 7 series Madones--no Domanes to be seen, unfortunately.

The weight on Cancellara's 58cm Domane is published at 16.5 lbs (Bike Radar and elswhere) with speedplay pedals and DA 9000, about a half pound heavier than my 58cm build with DA pedals and 9070 drive train, which would account for my bike's lack of left handed parts and his Aeolus 5 wheels vs. my lighter Aeolus 3s. If it was 7 or 7 plus carbon, it would start out life a noticable bit lighter.

Finally, Trek actually makes a pretty big deal out of selling the public the very same bikes the athletes ride.
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Changed my mind

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Personally, i wouldn't spend over $1500 on a bike if I am not a racer.

Or in other words, don't be a Fred.

But really, even at $1500, you can get a great bike though one that probably isn't "pro-level"
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I know this might sound like poopoo but I can tell the difference between a $1k, $5k and $10k bike. They are all good and do essentially the same, but they do feel different. Subaru STI can hit 60mph in 4.5 seconds from a standstill, do a slalom at 70mph, and 1/4 mile in sub 13 secs and cost $35k. Then on the other hand you have an e92 BMW M3. Does exactly the same. IT DOES NOT feel the same. Not sure if relevant, but to me it is about the feel which in this case mostly pronounced by the drivetrain first, frames second, wheels third. So yes, buy the best bike you can afford
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Nope, not going to do it !I am all about keeping bike shops open and thrivin. Ride on dude.
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Tubeless = scary. Not real expensive to switch over if you have problems though. I did.
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Well, I think I have reached a decision.

Gonna get the Domane 5.2. Still Ultegra 6800.

$900 cheaper than the 6-series which I can put towards the hottest new wheelset in a few years, or the new Polar V650 bike computer, or a power meter, or new shoes or an 11-32 cassette or etc.

Ride for a while and then decide what makes best sense.

Thanks again everyone.
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Don't spend more on a bike than the number of miles that you'll be putting on it per year. That's a good starting point. So $3k= 3,000 miles/yr. If you hit that standard, go for it. =)

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Originally Posted by chasingthewind View Post
I can put towards the hottest new wheelset in a few years, or the new Polar V650 bike computer, or a power meter, or new shoes.
Makes perfect sense to me. All those things change and the new ones are always tempting.
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You say you have an old department store bike, how often have you rode since you got it? If you barely rode it what makes you think spending thousands on a new bike you're going to ride it any more? I hear these stories all the time, well if I get a new expensive bike I'll ride it more...BS, if you're not riding the old one now in about 3 to 6 months after getting the new one you won't be riding it either and your thousands of dollar bikes will become garage art. If you're not riding the old one much now you need to scale back to a more reasonable priced bike at around $800, then if after 3 years you're still riding it everyday then go get that Trek. Calm down and take a deep breath before splurging just because you have money burning a hole in your pocket.
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Don't spend more on a bike than the number of miles that you'll be putting on it per year. That's a good starting point. So $3k= 3,000 miles/yr. If you hit that standard, go for it. =)

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I knew if I read this thread I would find justification for the Supersix Evo DA Di2 I've been wanting.... thanks! ;-**
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I knew if I read this thread I would find justification for the Supersix Evo DA Di2 I've been wanting.... thanks! ;-**
My pleasure.

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