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GPS / Computer VS iPhone 5S?

Old 03-06-14, 12:22 PM
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Old 03-06-14, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MatCartmill View Post
The 800 and the 810 are different. The 800 is $360ish online, the 810 is $560 online. I'm not sure what the exact differences are aside from user interface and better gps signal. It's definitely cheaper to buy the accessories individually than as the bundle, for whatever reason.
of course they are different, but they are still VERY close in functionality, the 810 only does a couple extra things. DCRainmaker has a nice comparison between the two, basic premise was that the 810 wasn't worth the extra ching over the 800 but the 510 was worth the extra over the 500.

FTR - I bought an 800 last year during a rebate/sale from garmin and got my 800 for about $220 after rebate.
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Old 03-06-14, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bonz50 View Post
of course they are different, but they are still VERY close in functionality, the 810 only does a couple extra things. DCRainmaker has a nice comparison between the two, basic premise was that the 810 wasn't worth the extra ching over the 800 but the 510 was worth the extra over the 500.

FTR - I bought an 800 last year during a rebate/sale from garmin and got my 800 for about $220 after rebate.
If I could get an 800 for $220, I'd consider it. I think overall you can either go with a GPS or a phone to do the same thing. You might -/+ a feature or two either way you choose, but whatever helps you with your ride is personal preference.

I wish I had a bit of extra cash to grab a Garmin to see which I prefer. Can the Garmin export data to Strava?
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Old 03-06-14, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MatCartmill View Post
If I could get an 800 for $220, I'd consider it. I think overall you can either go with a GPS or a phone to do the same thing. You might -/+ a feature or two either way you choose, but whatever helps you with your ride is personal preference.

I wish I had a bit of extra cash to grab a Garmin to see which I prefer. Can the Garmin export data to Strava?
yes
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Originally Posted by MatCartmill View Post
Can the Garmin export data to Strava?
To expand on bonz50's answer...

You hook the Garmin up to your computer via USB and upload to the Strava website that way. It's not a direct upload like a phone. I tend to charge the Garmin using the USB connection to my laptop and I generally would be analyzing my ride on the Strava website anyway so this isn't a hassle for me in any way.
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Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
To expand on bonz50's answer...

You hook the Garmin up to your computer via USB and upload to the Strava website that way. It's not a direct upload like a phone. I tend to charge the Garmin using the USB connection to my laptop and I generally would be analyzing my ride on the Strava website anyway so this isn't a hassle for me in any way.
yup, this.

FTR - I've got an iPhone5 and the garmin. I like the garmin a LOT better
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Originally Posted by bonz50 View Post
yes
Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
To expand on bonz50's answer...

You hook the Garmin up to your computer via USB and upload to the Strava website that way. It's not a direct upload like a phone. I tend to charge the Garmin using the USB connection to my laptop and I generally would be analyzing my ride on the Strava website anyway so this isn't a hassle for me in any way.
Not a deal breaker in any way, as the only thing I really care to use the phone for, aside from in an emergency, is Strava. If I can export from Garmin to Strava (beit online or whatnot only), that's not bad. Maybe I'll see if I can find a used one to play with.
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Old 03-06-14, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MatCartmill View Post
If I could get an 800 for $220, I'd consider it. I think overall you can either go with a GPS or a phone to do the same thing. You might -/+ a feature or two either way you choose, but whatever helps you with your ride is personal preference.

I wish I had a bit of extra cash to grab a Garmin to see which I prefer. Can the Garmin export data to Strava?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16858108398

Not an 800, and it's a refurb, but it's about as close as you're going to get at this point in time.
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That's a good deal.
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You can get the 810 for $300 after rebate if you buy it today:

https://slickdeals.net/f/6767000-garm...ing-over-phone
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Originally Posted by Elvo View Post
You can get the 810 for $300 after rebate if you buy it today:

https://slickdeals.net/f/6767000-garm...ing-over-phone
nice, i'd be all over that if I were doing it again. that's a freakishly good deal
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Old 03-06-14, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bikerjp View Post
Supposed to be able to cache Google Maps too but I haven't tried yet.
You can download Open Street Maps onto a micro SD card and use those with any Edge computer that takes a card for maps.
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Old 03-06-14, 04:21 PM
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Garmin is very accurate and also natively can handle Ant+ bike accessories and the battery lasts for 18 hours of continuous use.
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Originally Posted by MatCartmill View Post
If I could get an 800 for $220, I'd consider it. I think overall you can either go with a GPS or a phone to do the same thing. You might -/+ a feature or two either way you choose, but whatever helps you with your ride is personal preference.

I wish I had a bit of extra cash to grab a Garmin to see which I prefer. Can the Garmin export data to Strava?
$280 is the best I've seen: https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Edge-GP.../dp/B0041O5X8A
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Old 03-06-14, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by iamtim View Post
Wow, I've long considered getting a Garmin but never looked into pricing. If that's how much they are, I'll stay with my iPhone.
You can get the Garmin 800 for $280.

https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Edge-GP.../dp/B0041O5X8A
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Old 03-06-14, 05:23 PM
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one is a phone...the other is a cycling computer...always use the right tool for the job at hand...
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No photos, music, texting, googling, or phone calls on a Garmin.
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No photos, music, texting, googling, or phone calls on a Garmin.
Yeah its a very limited device. It doesn't warm food, solve integrals, order pizza, open bottles, or do your federal income taxes
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Originally Posted by bonz50 View Post
the 800 can be found all over the place for $a bit over $300, add the cadence sensor and HRM separately to save money (the bundles cost more than doing the bundle yourself)
Here the bundles are a better option if buying locally. The bundle for the 510/810 are $50 more than the HU itself, and the HRM and the speed/cadence sensor are $50 each. Plus the bundle comes with the out front mount.
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Old 04-12-14, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by iamtim View Post
That's problematic. You should get MUCH better battery life than that. On my normal 2+ hour rides I'm concerned if my 5S battery dips more than 10%.
Just wanted to follow up on this now that the weather is nice and I've been able to ride a lot. With all features turned on and music going, I'm getting about 8-10% battery drain per hour. Mix that in with the occasional phone call or phone interaction, I'd call it 8-9 hours of battery life while logging with Strava.
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Used to mount my iPhone on my bike, but ran into same issues with battery life, switched to a garmin 810, lasts hours longer and still connects to my iPhone in my pocket so people who I select can track me live (useful when i'm riding alone in case some driver hits me). Garmin is much more accurate and has more information available than simple iPhone apps. However, I think there's something called iBike Dash that has a extra battery in the holder. I considered that too. IMO the garmin looks much better mounted on your bike than an iPhone too. There are mount options like k-edge that puts it out in front of your stem and bars which is a great position while your riding.

Bottom line is I'm always going to carry my phone, listening to music while riding is just plain dangerous-period. By using my garmin, my phone lasts a lot longer in case I need to make an emergency call, etc. Garmin integrates well with the phone and it will show weather and alerts if you link them. Phone stays in my pocket, Garmin does the work. Simple and easy. Garmin also lets you set up different bikes so switching between them is simple, iPhone you have to reprogram for each bike.

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Old 04-12-14, 09:50 AM
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It is actually quite crazy how fast my iphone 5 battery drains when it is 45 degrees or less. It will drain down and turn off, then when I get home, I can set it down for 10-15 minutes, and quickly the battery percentage will go back up. I guess if I ever needed to use it all I have to do is get it warm again.
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