Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Dura Ace Di2 vs. Ultegra Di2

Search
Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Dura Ace Di2 vs. Ultegra Di2

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-08-14, 08:07 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
lennyparis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Long Island
Posts: 664

Bikes: 2017 Tarmac Pro, 2014 S-Works Tarmac, 2011 Trek Madone 6.2, 2014 Trek Madone 5.9 & 2009 Specialized Hardtail

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Dura Ace Di2 vs. Ultegra Di2

I don't race but want to go electronic

Any reason to pay a lot more for Dura Ace?

I always found Ultegra (mechanical) to shift very smoothly and be pretty light
lennyparis is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 08:18 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
lennyparis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Long Island
Posts: 664

Bikes: 2017 Tarmac Pro, 2014 S-Works Tarmac, 2011 Trek Madone 6.2, 2014 Trek Madone 5.9 & 2009 Specialized Hardtail

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Actually would mechanical dura ace be a viable alternative?

Building up a S-Works Tarmac myself and at about $7000 for Ultegra Di2 vs. $9300 for Dura Ace Di2

Is it worth the extra cash?
lennyparis is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 08:23 PM
  #3  
Super Moderator
 
Homebrew01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Posts: 21,843

Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1173 Post(s)
Liked 927 Times in 612 Posts
Originally Posted by lennyparis

Is it worth the extra cash?
That's really up to you.
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.

FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Homebrew01 is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 08:25 PM
  #4  
gc3
Falls Downalot
 
gc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: DC
Posts: 3,103

Bikes: Now I Got Two

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I think you burn more calories having to push the mechanical lever to shift gears.
gc3 is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 08:26 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Samfujiabq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Albuquerque,New Mexico
Posts: 260

Bikes: 14 Wilier zero7,13 Fuji Altimira SL,10 Fuji SL1RC,09 Yeti Mtb

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I have Ultegra DI2 and it shifts flawlessly.Read all the reviews, but it became apparent the only significant difference is a small weight factor and a big price difference,other than that they're similar in shifting.The newer 6870 is supposed to have lost some weight.
Samfujiabq is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 08:38 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Dunbar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
Posts: 3,078

Bikes: Roubaix SL4 Expert , Cervelo S2

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 85 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I think somebody posted recently that they own both and can't feel any difference between the two. I think Dura Ace is lighter but probably not enough lighter to justify the price difference.
Dunbar is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 08:50 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
fuel0707's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Central OH
Posts: 152

Bikes: Lauf True Grit; Trek Madone, Domane and Checkpoint; EMB-505

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 1 Post
If you're not racing, seems like having Ultegra-level Di2 and about $2300 in your pocket for a wheelset or other cycling goods is a plenty good trade-off.
fuel0707 is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 08:59 PM
  #8  
gc3
Falls Downalot
 
gc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: DC
Posts: 3,103

Bikes: Now I Got Two

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by fuel0707
If you're not racing, seems like having Ultegra-level Di2 and about $2300 in your pocket for a wheelset or other cycling goods is a plenty good trade-off.
...or even better, for hookers and blow!
gc3 is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 09:12 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Apopka, Florida
Posts: 1,476

Bikes: Santa Cruz Stigmata

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 202 Post(s)
Liked 30 Times in 20 Posts
From what I see, the difference is about $950.00 between the two. Performance sells a complete Ultegra 6870 di2 kit for $1250 and a DA9070 kit for $2,200, seems to come with everything you need but if I were doing it from scratch I would go with the e-tube battery which may add a few bucks to either setup? I have Ultegra di2 on my bike and it works pretty darn good, cant see myself ever having mechanical shifters after having di2.
dvdslw is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 09:44 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
rangerdavid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boone, North Carolina
Posts: 5,094

Bikes: 2009 Cannondale CAAD9-6 2014 Trek Domaine 5.9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
wonder what the weight difference is?
rangerdavid is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 10:19 PM
  #11  
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Delaware shore
Posts: 13,558

Bikes: Cervelo C5, Guru Photon, Waterford, Specialized CX

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1106 Post(s)
Liked 2,173 Times in 1,464 Posts
149 grams on a year old weigh from Velonews. That doesn't include the non-electric parts though
StanSeven is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 11:32 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
kv501's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 832
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Samfujiabq
I have Ultegra DI2 and it shifts flawlessly.Read all the reviews, but it became apparent the only significant difference is a small weight factor and a big price difference,other than that they're identical in shifting.The newer 6870 is supposed to have lost some weight.
Fixed that for you.
kv501 is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 11:33 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
link0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 794

Bikes: '11 Merlin Extralight, '98 Dean Castanza, '89 Schwinn Prologue

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
$9,300 for a s-works with dura ace di2? Damn you must be rich!
link0 is offline  
Old 03-08-14, 11:35 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Samfujiabq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Albuquerque,New Mexico
Posts: 260

Bikes: 14 Wilier zero7,13 Fuji Altimira SL,10 Fuji SL1RC,09 Yeti Mtb

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by kv501
Fixed that for you.
Thank you sir
Samfujiabq is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 12:49 AM
  #15  
Full Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 345
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 55 Post(s)
Liked 57 Times in 34 Posts
Originally Posted by gc3
...or even better, for hookers and blow!
Proper priorities
bahula03 is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 04:20 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
JimF22003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 2,654

Bikes: 2008 Trek Madone 5.5, 2009 Cervelo R3SL tdf edition, Cervelo R5 with Di2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I have the 10-speed versions of each on two similar bikes. Functionally I can't tell them apart. The Ultegra FD makes a little bit different/louder noise when shifting, but that's about it.
JimF22003 is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 02:28 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by gc3
...or even better, for hookers and blow!
You DO like those hookers and blow! Not that I'm blaming you.
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 02:36 PM
  #18  
gc3
Falls Downalot
 
gc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: DC
Posts: 3,103

Bikes: Now I Got Two

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
You DO like those hookers and blow! Not that I'm blaming you.
If I didn't, then I might actually remember the 1980s...
gc3 is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 02:40 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by gc3
If I didn't, then I might actually remember the 1980s...
I can't forget them, they keep coming around again and again in my sleep.
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 04:14 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
lennyparis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Long Island
Posts: 664

Bikes: 2017 Tarmac Pro, 2014 S-Works Tarmac, 2011 Trek Madone 6.2, 2014 Trek Madone 5.9 & 2009 Specialized Hardtail

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 28 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I guess another way to look at this is to go Dura Ace mechanical for same price as electronic ultegra
lennyparis is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 04:21 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
zvez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Columbus, GA
Posts: 536

Bikes: 2014 Cervelo R5 Dura Ace,2014 Specialized S-Works Roubaix

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
can the ultegra Di2 take the seat post battery? I got to say I love that aspect, it makes for a super clean install, and you just plug into the port mounted on steering stem. The other the Di2 9070 has is a second set of buttons you mount on the straight part of the handlebar this is so you cann shift while climbing and not having to take your hands off the bars to get to brifters.
zvez is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 05:10 PM
  #22  
gc3
Falls Downalot
 
gc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: DC
Posts: 3,103

Bikes: Now I Got Two

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Ultegra Di2 had the seatpost battery first...
gc3 is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 06:19 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 182
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by zvez
can the ultegra Di2 take the seat post battery? I got to say I love that aspect, it makes for a super clean install, and you just plug into the port mounted on steering stem. The other the Di2 9070 has is a second set of buttons you mount on the straight part of the handlebar this is so you cann shift while climbing and not having to take your hands off the bars to get to brifters.
The climbing switch is an optional part that can be added to both Ultegra Di2 and DA Di2. It's not limited to 9070
Nebby10 is offline  
Old 03-09-14, 06:28 PM
  #24  
Team ABC Cycles
 
Chris R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Montreal Qc.
Posts: 600

Bikes: 2010 Colnago CX-1 and '12 S-Works Venge

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I would also vote Ui2 since you are not looking for the most weight savings and Ui2 works great.
I'm a SRAM RED guy but I like DA mechanical a lot.
Chris R. is offline  
Old 03-11-14, 06:30 AM
  #25  
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
After going with Ultegra 6770 DI2 to replace my Dura Ace 7900 equipment, I would never buy or build another bike without DI2. And unless you are chasing weight or just a person who wants the very best, there's no real reason to go DA DI2 over Ultegra DI2. My only gripe is that I wish it would automatically move the rear derailleur 2 or 3 cogs higher when changing from big to little ring if you're in the lower range of the rear cassette, but that's minor.
shaneh is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.