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Old 04-05-14, 08:26 PM
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I'm sticking with 8 speeds because anyone with more than 8 speeds is a smug Euro-pro elitist.









Actually, I just can't afford a bike with more than 8 speeds.
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Old 04-05-14, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
I'm glad that I wasn't the only one to call BS on the long winded post.
His BS started on the first page of this thread. I read about two sentences of that post and thought, this guy must be trolling us.
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Old 04-05-14, 11:19 PM
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I'm sticking with 1 because even two is just absurd.
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I'm sticking with 10 because I can't afford to replace two road bikes with functional 10sp groups.
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator View Post
I'm sticking with 1 because even two is just absurd.
Riding with a constant cadence is quite nice, you should try it.
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Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
I'm sticking with 10 because I can't afford to replace two road bikes with functional 10sp groups.
Winner!

IMO, the best reason not to go with 11speed is that the setup you are currently using is in good working order.
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why should i remove my 10 speed stuff from my bike when they work just fine?
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why should i remove my 10 speed stuff from my bike when they work just fine?
Hey, as long as you don't mind being a retro-grouch, Grandpa, you can do whatever you want.
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Hey, as long as you don't mind being a retro-grouch, Grandpa, you can do whatever you want.

you throw away something that isn't broken just to have the newer stuff? consumerism gone mad.
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Originally Posted by Six jours View Post
Hey, as long as you don't mind being a retro-grouch, Grandpa, you can do whatever you want.
I like how you take one comment about one person, and turn it into a sweeping generalization about anyone that doesn't want to go with 11-speed.

If you actually take a moment to look at the comments I've made in this thread, you would see that this is not my view on the topic.

Troll on.
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Old 04-06-14, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerdavid View Post
do you have to have a new set of wheels for 11 speed, or just a new 11 speed free hub? in other words, how can you make 10 speed wheels work with 11 speed (if you can)??
The 11 speed cogs and spacers are thinner, so they fit on most 10 speed hubs.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
The 11 speed cogs and spacers are thinner, so they fit on most 10 speed hubs.
I haven't heard this. This is true for the Campy 11-speed stuff. So far as I know, the Shimano 11-speed stuff needs a longer freehub body.
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Originally Posted by grolby View Post
I haven't heard this. This is true for the Campy 11-speed stuff. So far as I know, the Shimano 11-speed stuff needs a longer freehub body.
When I sent my Powertap in for a rebuild, they installed the 11 speed freehub...obviously longer than the ten speed; they included the necessary spacer.
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I haven't heard this. This is true for the Campy 11-speed stuff. So far as I know, the Shimano 11-speed stuff needs a longer freehub body.
You might be right. I was just thinking about Campy.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
You might be right. I was just thinking about Campy.
Mavic wheels have used wider freehub bodies for many years(w/ a spacer), and those wheels will accept an 11-speed cassette, but I don't know of any others.
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht View Post
I like how you take one comment about one person, and turn it into a sweeping generalization about anyone that doesn't want to go with 11-speed.

If you actually take a moment to look at the comments I've made in this thread, you would see that this is not my view on the topic.

Troll on.
Pfft. You're probably one of those Luddites still riding last year's frame.
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Pfft. You're probably one of those Luddites still riding last year's frame.
You really should give it a rest. Your attempts at trolling are quite pathetic.
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SRAM still makes 10 speed Red/Force. That speaks for itself, there is still demand for 10 speed on even the best/lightest groupsets.
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SRAM still makes 10 speed Red/Force. That speaks for itself, there is still demand for 10 speed on even the best/lightest groupsets.
Lightest groupset? Sure
Best groupset? That might be your opinion, but many will disagree.

It doesn't cost SRAM anything in R&D to keep building 10 speed Res & Force, but how long will they continue? It doesn't make sense for them to make 10 speed high end components, but SRAM is known to make bad business decisions.
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Originally Posted by Six jours View Post
Pfft. You're probably one of those Luddites still riding last year's frame.

wasteful consumption is no laughing matter, son.
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if going 11 speed means wasting my time to clean 1 more cog? no thanks
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So is everybody looking forward to the day when 12-spd comes out?....can't wait!
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At some point in the future, one of the front chainrings will be eliminated. Think about that. Sounds great unless you don't have electronic or ancient friction shifting. Then when you crest that hill and start to zoom down the other side, you have to roll through all of those gears one at a time. Then your down hill run ends and you start another epic climb. You have to repeat the sequence again going the other way. That is a whole lot of shifting. Your wrist is sure going to get tired! Maybe by then electronic shifting will have taken over.
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So is everybody looking forward to the day when 12-spd comes out?....can't wait!
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Originally Posted by zymphad View Post
SRAM still makes 10 speed Red/Force. That speaks for itself, there is still demand for 10 speed on even the best/lightest groupsets.
I'd say the only thing we can tell is that SRAM is still selling 10-speed Red/Force. They could just be selling down old stock.
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