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Old 04-01-14, 03:09 PM
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anyone sticking with 10 speed because they....

like it? and not due to prices etc.?
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Old 04-01-14, 03:12 PM
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I am sticking with 9 speed because 10 is hoity toity.
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It's more like: 'I have it, have paid for it, and it's got plenty of life remaining'
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Sticking with 10 because I have three relatively new groups that all work great. Nothing is broken that 11 will fix.
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I just got to 9-speed a couple months ago.
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I am upgrading to 105 5700 10 speed from 9 speed, so that I can share wheels, cassettes, and other parts between my two bikes. No need to upgrade to 11 speed now.
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Sticking with 10 because I have three relatively new groups that all work great. Nothing is broken that 11 will fix.
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I'm sort in that boat, although I look at it more as not having a reason to upgrade. 9sp pretty much gave me all the gear options I needed, and I still have one bike with it. I went to 10 mainly to try SRAM. I currently have 3 bikes with 10sp SRAM (well, sram shifters anyway) and will probably stay with it until I can't get parts. I expect that to be a while as I have a spare set of shifters, too.

At some point I am sure I will want to rig up electronic shifting so that may lure me in, but otherwise I haven't seen anything new that compels me to change and I am not an "upgrade for the sake of upgrading" kind of guy.
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I'm on the 11 train. Can't say that it's revolutionary, but I haven't found a situation where I needed more or less gear, if that makes sense.

OTOH, I came from 8 speed, so it's a big jump. I'm sure I'd be very happy with 10 and was originally looking at buying 5700 until my bike shop made 11 fit in my budget.
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Wut?
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As long as I have a wimpy enough granny gear I really don't care how many speeds I have. I'm still running 9-speed on one of my bikes and it doesn't bother me at all. As long as the shifters work, I see no reason to upgrade anything. Chains and cassettes are still relatively easy to find.

I've never once thought to myself, "This ride would be a lot more fun if I had more gears."
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I've never once thought to myself, "This ride would be a lot more fun if I had more gears."
+1. Although I have thought many times, "This ride would be a lot more fun if I had more leg."
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Wut?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zz
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I went from 9 which I liked because A it was forgiving and B cassettes were cheap to 10 because I got a good deal on a used bike from a friend and really I didn't notice any huge difference.
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I have no need to.

Some people want the latest stuff or for the sake of doing it...which I gots no issues with. Keeps products moving forward and businesses open.

When I build up the next bike...it'll be whatever speed is being offered at that time.

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Forgive me for repeating myself. Wut? Just say it please.
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As long as I have a wimpy enough granny gear I really don't care how many speeds I have. I'm still running 9-speed on one of my bikes and it doesn't bother me at all. As long as the shifters work, I see no reason to upgrade anything. Chains and cassettes are still relatively easy to find.

I've never once thought to myself, "This ride would be a lot more fun if I had more gears."
kudos... not everybody is so complacent. i was riding with a guy the other day when we came upon a half-mile 6 percent climb. he said, "i'm going around the long way. i've only got 9 cogs in back."
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I'm still on 6700 for the same reasons I'm on a CAAD10 and not on a C60 Italia.
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like it? and not due to prices etc.?
I do have 3 bikes kitted out with 10-speed. Although most of my bikes are running 7-speed rear ends, including what I rode to work this AM.

Some history: The Shimano freehub spec has been stable for close to 20 years, and has been used for 8 to 9 to 10 cogs, with progressively narrower chains and cog spacing. But through this, the freehub width has remained constant.

With Shimano's move to 11-speed, they simply ran out of real estate to jam in more cogs. This resulted in a new wider freehub, which requires more rear wheel dish, closer hub flange spacing, and a larger differential between tensions on the drive and non-drive sides of the rear wheel. This means a weaker, flexier and generally less stable wheel. There is no upside to this - it is all bad.

Second, check out the relative costs of 10 and 11 speed cassettes and chains. I went through 4 1/2 chains and at least one cassette in 2013. YMMV. Factor this extra cost into your upgrade decision.

Finally, adopting 11 speed plays into an increasingly absurd game of planned obsolescence that is imposed on us by the manufacturers. Is the 5-year cycle of simply 'adding another cog' going to get me to open up my wallet to buy a bunch of new stuff? No. Frankly it is joke; a transparent attempt to mask the lack of real innovation and progress in the bike industry. The sad bottom line is that this industry does not pay enough to get top-end design and engineering talent. There is some progress, such as the move to carbon, and electronic shifting, but genuine substantive progress in the bike industry is glacial relative to the bigger money markets such as computer hardware and software, and the auto biz.

Do I care if some gullible early adopter is drawn into making a foolish upgrade decision because they 'need' 11 speeds? No. However, it pisses me off when I constantly hear from bike shops and wholesalers that they cannot source 9-speed cassettes, because "everyone is going to 11-speed now, so they recommend a new bike."

Anyway, I am in the process of building up a 15 pound carbon bike. It is based on a 10-speed drivetrain, for a combination of the factors above. Plus because there is a whole bunch of heavily discounted 10-speed stuff tricking down via Ebay and wholesalers who are blowing it out.
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I'm still on 6700 for the same reasons I'm on a CAAD10 and not on a C60 Italia.
You have taste?
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I'm just moving from 7 speed to 10 speed for my road bike. I like to be one cog behind.
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I have too many bikes and wheelsets, that are all ten speed. Plus pretty darn happy with 10.
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Originally Posted by RollCNY View Post
You have taste?

Agreed!

I have 2 x 10-speed CAAD10s and a 9-speed Norco RD-2 at present and having given the new DA & Ultegra 11-sp drivetrains a good test, will not be upgrading too soon, as I don't care about shiny and new per se; and do not believe the newer groups are so much better that I can justify outlaying thousands to upgrade.

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I like my triple and the trend seems to be towards eliminating a chain ring in favor of adding an extra cog. I'm sure there will be plenty of aftermarket 10 speed parts for people like me.
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