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Old 04-04-14, 11:10 AM
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Should i do the move ?

Hi, I had a Cannondale 2014 Supersix Evo Ultegra pre-ordered for a while and I still havent received it. My bike shop offered me to switch to a cervélo R3 for the same price.

Should I do it ?

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I wouldn't because I love the baby blue Supersix Evo paint job... Also just anecdotally, it seems like I read on the internet way too many complaints about defective Cervelo frames. They may warranty them, but that's a hassle waiting and then you gotta put in the elbow grease to rebuild your bike or worse pay the shop to do it if you don't have the tools... I think the Cervelo MSRP is higher tho.
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Why do you want to downgrade?
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But you really want a Cannondale 2014 Supersix Evo Ultegra. Just wait otherwise you'll have buyers remorse.
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Mine just arrived. Yours will likely ship soon too.
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If you end up not liking the Cervelo, you will never forgive yourself!

Stick to your guns!
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Not being able to afford either - I vote wait for your original choice of the Cannondale, lest you have buyers remorse. Only substitute if they offer you a deal on a higher spec model Cannondale.
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What do you mean by "pre-ordered"? The bikes have been out for nearly a year now. Well, at least half a year.

If you're desperate for a new bike right now, get the cervaylo. If you're not, get the one you want more.
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
What do you mean by "pre-ordered"? The bikes have been out for nearly a year now. Well, at least half a year.

If you're desperate for a new bike right now, get the cervaylo. If you're not, get the one you want more.
I had it in pre-order since last year and in my region they are only starting to receive the bikes.

So the general consensus is that I should wait for the Cannondale ?

I was told that the Cervelo has a better crank/bracket and better wheels.
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Originally Posted by laf
I had it in pre-order since last year and in my region they are only starting to receive the bikes.

So the general consensus is that I should wait for the Cannondale ?

I was told that the Cervelo has a better crank/bracket and better wheels.
Can't speak to the Cervelo specks but just picked up my Evo. Only had time for a 15 mile ride but damn it's a nice bike. Smoother than my Synapse and 15.4 lbs with bottle cages, pedals, Garmin and mount. Everything but the frame can be upgraded (unless you buy a new bike).

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That's a sharp bike!
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Get What You Picked

WestPablo speaks truth, if you aren't completely happy with the Cervelo, you'll regret the move.
Wait for what you really want. The move is probably more beneficial to the bike shop.
They're doing nothing wrong, they are offering you the choice, they can probably easily move your
EVO. Your choice, but if you fell for the EVO, wait for the EVO.
bikerjp, wow, in a sea of murdered, blacked out mess, your bike really stands out, that's a sharp looking bike.
Like Cannondale colorways, your bike is not flashy but accented well enough that the design flows. Freakin' sharp, it is.
I like the Cannondale cranks too, visually better looking than SRAM Red, Dura Ace, Super Campy IMO.
I'm going the custom made route, but if buying carbon today, it would be a Cannondale EVO.
Cervelo has let their style go stale, R3 now looks dated, but functionaly, I'm sure it's a good bike.
OP, good luck with your choice, it's a good problem to have.
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Old 04-11-14, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnette
WestPablo speaks truth, if you aren't completely happy with the Cervelo, you'll regret the move.
Wait for what you really want. The move is probably more beneficial to the bike shop.
They're doing nothing wrong, they are offering you the choice, they can probably easily move your
EVO. Your choice, but if you fell for the EVO, wait for the EVO.
bikerjp, wow, in a sea of murdered, blacked out mess, your bike really stands out, that's a sharp looking bike.
Like Cannondale colorways, your bike is not flashy but accented well enough that the design flows. Freakin' sharp, it is.
I like the Cannondale cranks too, visually better looking than SRAM Red, Dura Ace, Super Campy IMO.
I'm going the custom made route, but if buying carbon today, it would be a Cannondale EVO.
Cervelo has let their style go stale, R3 now looks dated, but functionaly, I'm sure it's a good bike.
OP, good luck with your choice, it's a good problem to have.
After reading a bit, I still dont know what to do.

The cervelo seems to have some advantages. Better wheels, better crank, internal cable routing.

The frame I dont know. on the evo, its the ballistec carbon, not the hi-mod carbon. So they weight about the same.

They both look good to me. Black and gray for the Evo, black and white with blue for the r3.

If I choose the Cervélo and dont like it, I can still sell it and buy another bike.

But since its my first road bike (always had mountain bikes) I believe i will be pleased with about anything.
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Stick with the Cannondale Evo!!
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Good Points

laf, you had me at "has better wheels". Ha!
You make a good case for the Cervelo.
You really can't go "wrong" per say, with either. In reality, you would have to ride both for quite a awhile to get a true
feel of them, and in the end, the differences wouldn't be huge, no matter how much folks here and magazines would have you believe. They would be nuanced differences though, sure, but again, I would wager that, being new, you will love and learn on either one the same. I would save the hand wringing for the next one when you know more of what you want, need. Ah, N+1, makes the world go round!
Keep this thread alive, keep us posted, would like to see what you get.
Cycling is fun and it's fun to share. Pre-emptive congrats on whatever you get laf.
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Originally Posted by laf
After reading a bit, I still dont know what to do.

The cervelo seems to have some advantages. Better wheels, better crank, internal cable routing.

The frame I dont know. on the evo, its the ballistec carbon, not the hi-mod carbon. So they weight about the same.
Internal cable routing is more form than function. Most people upgrade wheels eventually, but if they are a lot better and something you'll ride that could be a factor. Aren't all Evo's BallisTec carbon? There are just three grades: regular, hi-mod and nano.
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Originally Posted by cannondale125
Stick with the Cannondale Evo!!
Ok, but why ? I need a better reason than : its a Cannondale.

As for the frame on the Cannondale, its the normal Ballistec carbon.
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Are the geometries identical? Nothing is as important as fit.
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Originally Posted by laf
Hi, I had a Cannondale 2014 Supersix Evo Ultegra pre-ordered for a while and I still havent received it. My bike shop offered me to switch to a cervélo R3 for the same price.

Should I do it ?

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I have a 2013 EVO (the hi-mod version) and a 2011 R3. They are two very different bikes. Depending on your needs, one may be better than the other. If you are a racer/aggressive ride, you will appreciate the CDale; but if you are a recreational ride and like to ride long distance, the R3 is a better choice. Whatever you get, make sure you get some good wheels.
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Originally Posted by Burnette
laf, you had me at "has better wheels". Ha!
You make a good case for the Cervelo.
You really can't go "wrong" per say, with either. In reality, you would have to ride both for quite a awhile to get a true
feel of them, and in the end, the differences wouldn't be huge, no matter how much folks here and magazines would have you believe. They would be nuanced differences though, sure, but again, I would wager that, being new, you will love and learn on either one the same. I would save the hand wringing for the next one when you know more of what you want, need. Ah, N+1, makes the world go round!
Keep this thread alive, keep us posted, would like to see what you get.
Cycling is fun and it's fun to share. Pre-emptive congrats on whatever you get laf.
^^ what he said.

If this is your first bike, lucky you, and you will LOVE either.

So, if you are dying to get out there NOW, just go and get the Cervelo.

BTW, this forum is definitely biased toward the CDale in general.
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Originally Posted by valygrl
Are the geometries identical? Nothing is as important as fit.
For the same size (54cm), here are the stack/reach numbers measured by myself (in mm):

EVO R3
Reach 384 378
Stack 544 555
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Originally Posted by dalava
I have a 2013 EVO (the hi-mod version) and a 2011 R3. They are two very different bikes. Depending on your needs, one may be better than the other. If you are a racer/aggressive ride, you will appreciate the CDale; but if you are a recreational ride and like to ride long distance, the R3 is a better choice. Whatever you get, make sure you get some good wheels.
Im sure they are two different bikes. You are comparing the hi-mod frame with a 3 year bike. The hi-mod frame on the evo is about the same price as the whole 2014 r3 bike

i dont know what type of rider I will be, but there is a lot of climbing in my area. I cant go 3km without having to climb 18-20% hills.
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^^ so, that would be "NO"
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if this is your first road bike, then i wouldn't decide without a test ride of both...
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