Garmin 500 or 510?
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One advantage of the Garmin units is they are highly customizable. If you want a giant HR field at the top of the screen you can do that. On my 510 I can have like 6 pages with 8-10 fields per page if I want them. Without a power meter it's hard to justify a 510 IMO. If you pick up a cheap 500 on ebay for $200 with the sensor and HR monitor that's not too expensive. Keep in mind that you need to charge them every 8-10 ride hours which is a bit of hassle.
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I am thinking about and would appreciate feedback on upgrading to a Garmin 500 or 510. Currently on a couple of bikes I use the comparatively modest Cateye Strada Wireless without cadence for speed, mileage etc and thinking about replacing one with a Garmin.
So a couple of questions please:
If I don't feel a compulsion to spring for a power meter, is a Garmin really worthwhile?...or is a Garmin really only worthwhile as a basis to monitor power output while riding?
Cadence isn't that big a deal...I tend to spin versus mash anyway so this wouldn't be a big help to me..
But how about heart rate? Do you guys without a power meter use the heart rate monitor function on your Garmin to train within particular zones? Is this a good reason to get a Garmin if no plan for a power meter?
Lastly...the display for aging eyes. Can font size be increased on the display such that you only show maybe, speed and heartrate on one screen with a larger font?
Thanks
So a couple of questions please:
If I don't feel a compulsion to spring for a power meter, is a Garmin really worthwhile?...or is a Garmin really only worthwhile as a basis to monitor power output while riding?
Cadence isn't that big a deal...I tend to spin versus mash anyway so this wouldn't be a big help to me..
But how about heart rate? Do you guys without a power meter use the heart rate monitor function on your Garmin to train within particular zones? Is this a good reason to get a Garmin if no plan for a power meter?
Lastly...the display for aging eyes. Can font size be increased on the display such that you only show maybe, speed and heartrate on one screen with a larger font?
Thanks
The bottom line is that I think that the 500 is perfectly adequate and a lot cheaper.
OP, hopefully, you realize that the primary benefit of the Garmins over a regular cyclocomputer is the GPS capability, not the power capability. (In fact, there are Garmins that can't do power). I really like to be able to see where I've gone on past rides. And, even though you said that you're not interested in power data, I find it invaluable and interesting even though I don't race.
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I also don't agree that the primary advantage of Garmins is GPS since the Strava app on a smartphone will do that for free.
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I have a 510 and do the BT upload to Garmin Connect via a smartphone. Then I manually export from Garmin Connect and upload the file to Strava. No cables required. I haven't been able to get Copy My Sports to work.
I also don't agree that the primary advantage of Garmins is GPS since the Strava app on a smartphone will do that for free.
I also don't agree that the primary advantage of Garmins is GPS since the Strava app on a smartphone will do that for free.
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Here's a good review, I recently bought the 500. Due to the direct sunlight in the Mojave desert the 510's contrast would have been an issue for me.
The Complete Garmin Edge 510 Review
The Complete Garmin Edge 510 Review
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Here's a good review, I recently bought the 500. Due to the direct sunlight in the Mojave desert the 510's contrast would have been an issue for me.
The Complete Garmin Edge 510 Review
The Complete Garmin Edge 510 Review
The photographs in that review are all taken from a low angle, where yes its terrible.
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I have both. I like the 510 more than the 500.
Got the 510 the week it came out. Gave my GF the 500...which she's completely happy with. She uses the cadence and HR monitor. I use the cadence with the 510.
The 500 can be slow to pick up a signal...while the 510 picks up much faster.
The 500 does not reset once you stop your workout. If you forget to reset...it'll continue next time from where you left off and you'll have to manually trim your ride. The 510 resets the ride once you save.
Imo...the resolution on the 510 is fine for me. I've never once thought to myself that the display is hard to read.
The BT is nice...uploads my ride automatically to Connect after I hit save. Not a big deal since I still have to manually upload to Strava.
Got the 510 the week it came out. Gave my GF the 500...which she's completely happy with. She uses the cadence and HR monitor. I use the cadence with the 510.
The 500 can be slow to pick up a signal...while the 510 picks up much faster.
The 500 does not reset once you stop your workout. If you forget to reset...it'll continue next time from where you left off and you'll have to manually trim your ride. The 510 resets the ride once you save.
Imo...the resolution on the 510 is fine for me. I've never once thought to myself that the display is hard to read.
The BT is nice...uploads my ride automatically to Connect after I hit save. Not a big deal since I still have to manually upload to Strava.
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I think another trick is not to use polarized sunglasses with the 510. I don't have an issue with mine and I don't think it's angled up at 15 degrees. You do need to adjust it so the clouds/sky aren't reflecting off the screen.
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I really like the live track. Auto uploads your data to Garmin at the end . The wife can figure out when I'm going to be home.
I also really like how the 510 resets your ride data before each ride (after you save).
I also really like how the 510 resets your ride data before each ride (after you save).
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I went from the 500 to the 510. At first the learning curve was a problem, but now I love my 510.
If you have more than 3 bikes, the 510 is a better choice.
The screen is easy to read even in bright sun.
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Hey OP. Bought my 500 bundle after reading a lot about it vs. the 510. It's a great size, weight, and the red & black version is slick. I noticed lot's of people were happy not to have a touchscreen. Mine grabs a satellite in <30 seconds. The main draw is obviously GPS, but also ANT+. Lot's to customize on the 500. Here are the data fields on the 3 pages I currently use:
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Thanks so much guys for all the great input. A question about the HR monitor strap that comes with the Garmin, if you order the bundle. Is this the way to go?...or is there a better strap if you buy the head unit alone and buy a separate HR strap as an upgrade from the strap that comes with the Garmin bundle?
Thanks
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Thanks so much guys for all the great input. A question about the HR monitor strap that comes with the Garmin, if you order the bundle. Is this the way to go?...or is there a better strap if you buy the head unit alone and buy a separate HR strap as an upgrade from the strap that comes with the Garmin bundle?
Thanks
Thanks
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The one in the bundle worked great for me for two indoor riding seasons, but once the battery failed it never worked again. The changing battery protocol recommended by Garmin didn't fix it, and cleaning salt off of the "electronic guts" didn't either. Part of why I am meh on the 500 is the loss of HRM, which was great for indoor training. YMMV.
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I have the strap that came bundled with the red 500 and after ~2 years of use, it's still working perfectly and I have no complaints about it so far as comfort or functionality. I rinse the whole thing under "gentle" tap water after each ride and haven't had any salt, or anything else, build up.
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Thanks so much guys for all the great input. A question about the HR monitor strap that comes with the Garmin, if you order the bundle. Is this the way to go?...or is there a better strap if you buy the head unit alone and buy a separate HR strap as an upgrade from the strap that comes with the Garmin bundle?
Thanks
Thanks
I have the 500 bundle, been using the standard HR strap for 16 months with no problem (still on original battery). I checked out the "premium strap" very little difference IMO.
Everyone has pretty much said it well so far, the only thing I''ll add is don't sell yourself short on not needing power. As the prices of PM's come down, and knowing you to be a numbers and technical kind of guy you might find yourself getting one at some point. I've truly found it to be incredibly helpful in making the most out of rides and fitness (especially once you understand it and I guarantee you'll love all the reading ). At any rate just another vote for a computer that has the capability at least whether it be the 500 or 510.
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I have the strap that came bundled with the red 500 and after ~2 years of use, it's still working perfectly and I have no complaints about it so far as comfort or functionality. I rinse the whole thing under "gentle" tap water after each ride and haven't had any salt, or anything else, build up.
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Sounds like the HR strap that gets bundled with the 500-510 is pretty good and no benefit of buying just the Garmin head unit and a separate more premium strap. Wasn't sure if ergonomics or battery life, strap durability etc varied much between different ANT straps having little experience in that regard.
Robby, the power meter thing is a wild card or stretch goal I suppose. I am not a competitive rider, but rather just an oldster who likes to ride with young guns. So the only input I use relative to power is whether I get dropped or not. Not to take this thread on a philosophical bend but maybe it makes more sense to train within particular HR zones as opposed to particular power targets. No question others ponder this if there is a conflict between the two in particular.
Thanks again.
Robby, the power meter thing is a wild card or stretch goal I suppose. I am not a competitive rider, but rather just an oldster who likes to ride with young guns. So the only input I use relative to power is whether I get dropped or not. Not to take this thread on a philosophical bend but maybe it makes more sense to train within particular HR zones as opposed to particular power targets. No question others ponder this if there is a conflict between the two in particular.
Thanks again.
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The one in the bundle worked great for me for two indoor riding seasons, but once the battery failed it never worked again. The changing battery protocol recommended by Garmin didn't fix it, and cleaning salt off of the "electronic guts" didn't either. Part of why I am meh on the 500 is the loss of HRM, which was great for indoor training. YMMV.
Btw, they recommend washing the new one every 7 uses in the washing machine. I toss it in with a load of cycling clothes on gentle in a laundry bag.
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Sounds like the HR strap that gets bundled with the 500-510 is pretty good and no benefit of buying just the Garmin head unit and a separate more premium strap. Wasn't sure if ergonomics or battery life, strap durability etc varied much between different ANT straps having little experience in that regard.
Robby, the power meter thing is a wild card or stretch goal I suppose. I am not a competitive rider, but rather just an oldster who likes to ride with young guns. So the only input I use relative to power is whether I get dropped or not. Not to take this thread on a philosophical bend but maybe it makes more sense to train within particular HR zones as opposed to particular power targets. No question others ponder this if there is a conflict between the two in particular.
Thanks again.
Robby, the power meter thing is a wild card or stretch goal I suppose. I am not a competitive rider, but rather just an oldster who likes to ride with young guns. So the only input I use relative to power is whether I get dropped or not. Not to take this thread on a philosophical bend but maybe it makes more sense to train within particular HR zones as opposed to particular power targets. No question others ponder this if there is a conflict between the two in particular.
Thanks again.
Maybe my HR montior continues to do so well because I forget to wash it more often than not, and like rollCNY I'm a "lick it and forget it" guy!
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Sounds like the HR strap that gets bundled with the 500-510 is pretty good and no benefit of buying just the Garmin head unit and a separate more premium strap. Wasn't sure if ergonomics or battery life, strap durability etc varied much between different ANT straps having little experience in that regard.
Robby, the power meter thing is a wild card or stretch goal I suppose. I am not a competitive rider, but rather just an oldster who likes to ride with young guns. So the only input I use relative to power is whether I get dropped or not. Not to take this thread on a philosophical bend but maybe it makes more sense to train within particular HR zones as opposed to particular power targets. No question others ponder this if there is a conflict between the two in particular.
Thanks again.
Robby, the power meter thing is a wild card or stretch goal I suppose. I am not a competitive rider, but rather just an oldster who likes to ride with young guns. So the only input I use relative to power is whether I get dropped or not. Not to take this thread on a philosophical bend but maybe it makes more sense to train within particular HR zones as opposed to particular power targets. No question others ponder this if there is a conflict between the two in particular.
Thanks again.
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Sounded interesting at first but expensive, large and mostly gimmicks. If you are into things like real time "strava" segments (but garmin not strava), DI2 info, and having your ride interrupted by cell phone messages you might like the 1000. If I ever decide I need map data on my garmin I'll get an 800/810 or hopefully an updated one with better screen but not the giant size of the 1000.
Sounded interesting at first but expensive, large and mostly gimmicks. If you are into things like real time "strava" segments (but garmin not strava), DI2 info, and having your ride interrupted by cell phone messages you might like the 1000. If I ever decide I need map data on my garmin I'll get an 800/810 or hopefully an updated one with better screen but not the giant size of the 1000.