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Cycling is the new ... ?

Old 04-30-14, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
Putt-putt doesn't count
It doesn't!?

Seriously though if you're playing by yourself or one other person and not taking your sweet time at every shot there is no reason to take 15 minutes at each hole. 3 minutes is more than enough.
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Old 04-30-14, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Urymoto View Post
yes it is. It is because i work in the finance industry and ive seen it. All bankers and traders wanna do is cycle. Its for sure the new golf.
entire trading desks are hired based on wether or not guys cycle (slight exaggeration, but true)
Dude, tell me where I have to move! I've worked at a bank for over 5 years (and still not sure what a "banker" is), cycled all that time, and I'm still just that weirdo, cycling guy who constantly has to defend my breed.
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Golf and cycling have one thing in common -- they are the sports with the ugliest clothing.
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Old 04-30-14, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by therhodeo View Post
If gas keeps going up we may see more cyclist again. Thats how the boom a few years ago happened. Not only that but a large portion of the US population is reaching a certain age which brings both more free time and possibly health concerns. Alot of those people will just find a pill to take but a small portion will find something like cycling.
If that happens, generally you will only really see it in more densely populated areas where replacing shorter trips with another form of travel makes sense. Of course, in theory lots of people who don't could commute -- even in rural areas. But when you think about most people who choose that lifestyle having commutes of 10 miles or more, it's not that likely.
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Old 04-30-14, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mlander View Post
Dude, tell me where I have to move! I've worked at a bank for over 5 years (and still not sure what a "banker" is), cycled all that time, and I'm still just that weirdo, cycling guy who constantly has to defend my breed.
It varies, but most people in the business mean investment bankers when they use that term. It's a very "inside baseball" term, though. In my experience, most of the jobs that got transferred to Charlotte during the boomlet there were business support folks, not people who actually worked doing deals, working in wealth management, etc.
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Old 04-30-14, 10:20 AM
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So, while we might not agree with the premise of the articles, we'll all agree this is a good form of publicity for bike riding. And that a rising tide floats all boats...whatever that may mean.

It's good that young, well-to-do professionals can hang out and conduct business while riding in groups. Why not?

For the rest of us, we like to ride, too. I hope that they wave back as they pass...
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Old 04-30-14, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cafzali View Post
If that happens, generally you will only really see it in more densely populated areas where replacing shorter trips with another form of travel makes sense. Of course, in theory lots of people who don't could commute -- even in rural areas. But when you think about most people who choose that lifestyle having commutes of 10 miles or more, it's not that likely.
But statistically most trips are short. And if a portion of those were done by bike that would take a lot of cars of the road and alot of people on bikes.
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Old 04-30-14, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by therhodeo View Post
But statistically most trips are short. And if a portion of those were done by bike that would take a lot of cars of the road and alot of people on bikes.
Yes, but lots of people's errands involve carrying something that won't easily fit in a backpack or something else that could be carried with you by bike. I think the more interesting think that would probably be uncovered if research was done is that even avid cyclists don't replace short car trips with bike trips that often.
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Old 04-30-14, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cafzali View Post
Yes, but lots of people's errands involve carrying something that won't easily fit in a backpack or something else that could be carried with you by bike. I think the more interesting think that would probably be uncovered if research was done is that even avid cyclists don't replace short car trips with bike trips that often.
More often than not I'd say "cyclist" are recreational/fitness riders and not utility riders. I ride with alot of guys who won't even ride their bike to the start of a ride let alone to the bagel shop after a ride or the store.
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Old 04-30-14, 12:39 PM
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Old 04-30-14, 01:08 PM
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I golf and I ride. cycling will never take the place of golf. it may supplement/complement it but not replace. to much beer to be drank on the golf course, to many cigars, to much time to sit and chit chat about social and biz related things.
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Old 04-30-14, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mlander View Post
Dude, tell me where I have to move! I've worked at a bank for over 5 years (and still not sure what a "banker" is), cycled all that time, and I'm still just that weirdo, cycling guy who constantly has to defend my breed.
Northeast or the left coast, I guess. NC is not it.

Another funny thing, people who actually work at bank (e.g. Bank of America) are NOT bankers.
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Old 04-30-14, 02:04 PM
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Ding ding ding ding ding.... we have a winner!
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Old 04-30-14, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Weatherby View Post
Encouraging. Cyclists are far more pretentious and elitist than golfers.



The premise of the article faulty. Any golfer can play and successfully compete against one another. I'm a plus 2 Hcp and any hacker can have a game with me. On the road, I am a hacker and I have no way to do a training ride with a Cat 2 let alone a Cat 1. Take it down about 10 levels to the snotty B level club rides and think about how the welcome a beginning cyclist would receive showing up in gym shorts and sneakers, unless of course it was Freddy Hoffman and the poseurs couldn't hold his wheel.

Cycling is not the next golf.

No comparison on so many levels.
It's a lot more difficult to chat with a CEO who paid 30+k and monthly dues on a private course than it is to ride beside someone and strike up a conversation. That's the equalizer the article was talking about.
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Old 05-01-14, 06:17 AM
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Golf and cycling have one thing in common -- they are the sports with the ugliest clothing.
Golf - polo shirt and slacks?
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Old 05-01-14, 06:26 AM
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People are taking this far too literally. People in business network over golf. They network over cycling. end of story.

Move along, nothing to see here, folks.
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Originally Posted by bonz50 View Post
I golf and I ride. cycling will never take the place of golf. it may supplement/complement it but not replace. to much beer to be drank on the golf course, to many cigars, to much time to sit and chit chat about social and biz related things.
^Agreed

I don't buy it. Flavor of the day.
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Old 05-01-14, 07:48 AM
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Triathalons are the new golf - due to the increase in type A personalities in high income areas. That's what I've seen. Almost everyone I know is running a marathon or a tri this year. Consultants, traders, lawyers, etc. Almost no one my age only cycles.
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People are taking this far too literally. People in business network over golf. They network over cycling. end of story.

Move along, nothing to see here, folks.
Yep, this is it. People seem to miss the article is about networking. Even with golf, everyone knows who each other is in large outings. It's difficult for the insignificant people to reach out to a CEO, VP, Comptroller, etc. and chat. With cycling it's like everyone wears a mask with glasses, helmet, and the same clothes. People are much more open, direct, and accessible.
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LOL, Golf is fighting back ...

Head of PGA of America suggests quadrupling size of holes | Mail Online
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I don't see how it's the new golf when the vast majority of bikes I see on the road are vintage old steel/MTB commuters or hippy fixies with plastic rims with laminated sticker crap between spokes. And around here some shops are practical in that they either don't sell any carbon or very few and target the average rider who wants an affordable, easy to maintain, functional road/fitness/hybrid bikes.

And I don't need to reserve time on a golf course, or pay a membership fee or any fee for that matter, and I can cycle wherever I want however I want, no rules of etiquette to stop me. Granted it would be nice if I was nice on the road to fellow cyclists and pedestrians, I don't have to. And lastly there is no dress code for cycling. I can wear whatever I want.

It's hard to talk business on the bike, the wind, traffic noises etc... Talking business on bike just sounds dangerous to me, a good way to get killed.

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Old 05-01-14, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cafzali View Post
I think the more interesting think that would probably be uncovered if research was done is that even avid cyclists don't replace short car trips with bike trips that often.

Not true in the case of myself and my GF. We both have "car last" mindsets. Bike, walk public transportation, in that order. If one of us uses a car for a short trip, we are replacing a short bike trip with a short car trip.
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Originally Posted by Leinster View Post
All of this. A single handicapper and a 32 handicapper go out for 9 holes and they'll both finish at the same time. If a cat 1 and a social rider finish a 25 miler at the same time, one, other or both of them haven't enjoyed themselves.
I think a LBS puts on a road hill climb with age and weight handicaps
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