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Wave...goodbye to my keys, spare tube, tire tools and CO2 cartridges...

Old 05-28-14, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Cutter
I like the Topeak Aero Wedge. It come in three sizes and different configurations (attaching with clips or straps). I find the medium plenty roomy.


But the best solution for keys and money (and cell phone) is in a pocket. I keep money, phone, a photocopy DL and insurance card, and cash in a Ziploc bag in my center back jersey pocket. In the saddle bag I keep the spare tube, inflator, and tools.... and another stashed bit of cash.
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I run a small version of this saddle bag. Always carrying: spare tube, CO2, CO2 applicator, big box of spare patches (patches + glue), multitool, two small tire levers, pocket knife. I usually stuff cash and ID in the back net as well. Red rear light attached to back.

Jersey pockets: Cell Phone in Ziploc.

I occasionally put the keys in my saddle bag, and occasionally carry them in my jersey pocket, as I do with my ID/cash. I could fit my key ring into the saddle bag with all of the above with correct positioning (not difficult). My key ring had 1 car key (big), 2 house keys, 3 master lock keys (2 small, 1 big), 1 mail box key, 1 carabiner, and a drum key, so it wasn't exactly a small set of keys either. I have since lost those keys.... Not from a ride. I have no clue where they went....

I'd like to point out that with this set-up, I can carry a lot in my jersey pockets if required. I usually stuff my gloves back there. I occasionally pack a wind vest or arm warmers and can stuff a lot more extra clothing back there with most of my stuff in my saddle bag. I'd like to swap out the box of patches for a smaller box and load up a second tube and CO2 for a little extra security. That's about the only thing I'd change here.

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Originally Posted by Niloc
Besides no saddlebag is Rule #29 and Rule #31 compliant ;-) @Bob Dopolina it's pro to not to use a saddlebag. I put my food in jersey pockets. Don't need much for a 2-3 hour ride. Any super long rides I simply stop somewhere for a bite and either eat there, like a roadside cafe, or grab additional food/drink at a convenience store. Events are usually supported with some kind of snack/water stop.
Incorrect.

Every pro I have every known or ridden with has a saddle bag. Every one. This is for training, of course, and doesn't include team camps as those are supported.

Stopping for lunch is not something I have every done. I carry everything I need, including food, with me and only stop for liquids.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Incorrect.

Every pro I have every known or ridden with has a saddle bag. Every one. This is for training, of course, and doesn't include team camps as those are supported.

Stopping for lunch is not something I have every done. I carry everything I need, including food, with me and only stop for liquids.
Ok well I stand corrected. I'm debating whether to get a small saddlebag for the roadside repair stuff (spare tube, tire irons, patches and CO2) as many forum members seem to do. So maybe that is pro, velominati be damned!

As for food, well everybody's different. If I'm going on a long ride where I'll need a more than a few snacks / chews that fit easily in my jersey, I'll stop somewhere for food. If you're going to stop for liquids you can easily grab a bar or some other kind of snack while you're at it. Unless you're on some kind of wilderness adventure ride where there are no shops / stores / cafes handy, but I'm guessing that's not the case in Taiwan. I'm not racing in these situations, so 5 minutes at some mid-point cafe / bakery (or at least a 7-eleven) makes for a nice break, support the locals, and not carry extra food around with me for hours.
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Originally Posted by achoo
That's why keys go in your jersey pocket.
Or have a vehicle with a coded lock, you punch in the code and never have to carry your keys. Leave them under the front mat.

I realize that this is not a feature on every car, but it sure makes it a lot easier.

Even when I ride from the house, I open the truck, hit the garage door opener and off I go after locking the truck back up.

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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Incorrect.

Every pro I have every known or ridden with has a saddle bag. Every one. This is for training, of course, and doesn't include team camps as those are supported.

Stopping for lunch is not something I have every done. I carry everything I need, including food, with me and only stop for liquids.
Agreed.
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Bike repair stuff goes in the bag. I lock most of my keys in the car and carry only the car key/remote in my pocket. My car key, my cell phone, and a small sleeve with my ID, insurance card, cash, and a credit card are always in my pockets. For those advocating putting wallets or cell phones anywhere not attached to your body, realize that if you end up taking a ride in an ambulance for any reason, your bike and attachments may or may not make the trip with you. Without your cell phone and/or wallet, the hospital may have to work at figuring out who you are and notifying your family if you are not conscious. If you keep that stuff in your pocket, there is a much higher chance that it will make it to the hospital with you.
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Originally Posted by chaadster
I've had that happen, too, where I forget to zip the bag and lose stuff. Fortunately, haven't lost anything serious, just cash and a multitool. Dropped keys once, learned lesson, and now, on rare occasions where I'm somewhere with bike and car, I leave them tucked under the car somewhere, like behind the bumper or a rocker panel. A magnetic box underbody somewhere would work, too.

As for bags, I've discovered that using Scicon bags with the easy, quick release, Roller Mount have virtually eliminated forgetting to zip because I remove the bag to load, and have to reinstall before going, so the process makes it almost impossible to do. I guess I could forget to reinstall the bag altogether, but that hasn't happened yet! Also, the way it opens kinda helps minimize stuff just falling out the back as it does with an end-loader bag.

Check out the Scicon 480:

Where'd ya get that? I like the attachment system. Seems they don't retail in the USA.
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Originally Posted by Yankeetowner
.......... I've put my keys in my jersey pocket a few times, but I haven't been comfortable doing it. I don't carry any I.D. or emergency number in my jersey, which I need to start doing.
Actually... although I do sometimes drive to decent MUPs... mostly I just pedal a few miles to get there. My garage door has a coded entry so when I do drive... I only take one key. But you're right... if I lose my baggie of stuff I lose a LOT. But the phone adds enough heft it seems to stay put.

BTW... I keep the phone in a "tuff" case as well. So it should survive anything I do.

On the somewhat rare occasion when I do walk away from the bicycle... if I keep something in the bag I tend to leave it there. So if there is something I'd rather not have a kid take from my bicycle while I am in a restroom... I keep it on me to begin with. I am sure I remember what is in my saddle bag... but it's been months since I've opened it.

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Repair kit goes in a small saddle bag, which is almost never opened. The advantage of this is that you don't think about the repair kit, its always there.

Lezyne phone wallet holds phone, credit cards, ~$50 (various denominations, always 2x $1, 1x$5, 1x$20). Keys go in a different pocket. I have been debating a bag for key since the sweat isn't doing wonders for my transmitter. Anyone have a recommendation?
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I actually have the smaller 430 Carbon, but the same Roller 2.1 mount. It's a great bag, and the mount is awfully nice, both when using the bag, but also for easily transferring between bikes if you get an extra mount. The bag includes two integrated tire levers as well, which cleverly stow on both sides of the bag's top piece.

I got mine from Nonstopciclismo's eBay store: SCICON ROLLER 2.1 SYSTEM SADDLE BAG ATTACHMENT CLAMP items in nonstop ciclismo store on eBay!
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Originally Posted by danmc
I don't carry my car keys. I have a hide-a-key on my car. Keys are too heavy and cumbersome (although I carry a multi-tool that weighs like 30 pounds )
Most cars don't have keys anymore. You're showing your age.
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Originally Posted by Niloc
Where'd ya get that? I like the attachment system. Seems they don't retail in the USA.
Looks like the German-made TWIST® attachment. SKS uses it, and is available on e.g. Amazon:



As does REI's "Novara Expanding Seat Bag" in a slightly different version:



What I'd like is a source to buy only the attachment hardware, without the bag. That way I could move a single bag from one bike to another without investing in multiple unneeded bags.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Incorrect.

Every pro I have every known or ridden with has a saddle bag. Every one. This is for training, of course, and doesn't include team camps as those are supported.

Stopping for lunch is not something I have every done. I carry everything I need, including food, with me and only stop for liquids.
That's the difference between actual pros, and 41 members who think those satirical "rules" are real.

Originally Posted by bt
who uses their saddle bag for keys and or cellphone??

seriously, bike repair stuff only.
Pretty much, phone goes in a sandwich bag in my pocket to keep it dry.
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Did they wave back?

Phone, keys, ID and cash (and food if needed) in pockets. Repair items in an Arundel Dual bag.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Looks like the German-made TWIST® attachment. SKS uses it, and is available on e.g. Amazon:



As does REI's "Novara Expanding Seat Bag" in a slightly different version:



What I'd like is a source to buy only the attachment hardware, without the bag. That way I could move a single bag from one bike to another without investing in multiple unneeded bags.
As I linked above, Nonstopciclismo sells extra Scicon Roller mounts.
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Originally Posted by Yankeetowner
I carry my iPhone in a soft plastic case in my jersey pocket, which is how I was able to call for help last night. I've put my keys in my jersey pocket a few times, but I haven't been comfortable doing it. I don't carry any I.D. or emergency number in my jersey, which I need to start doing. I am actually glad I had nothing to identify me, my house location, or my vehicle (other than FORD on the key) with the keys that I lost.
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I lock my keys in my car and bring my spare keyless entry thingie in my jersey pocket.
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I loved the Topeak Aero Wedge when I had it! It had a surprising capacity and everything was easy to get at.
My current bag isn't "aero" but it holds everything I need- spare tube, adjustable wrench, chain tool, etc. and my phone (in a ziplock bag), I.D.,
and keys all go in my jersey pockets where I can check on them whenever I need.
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Originally Posted by chaadster
I actually have the smaller 430 Carbon, but the same Roller 2.1 mount. It's a great bag, and the mount is awfully nice, both when using the bag, but also for easily transferring between bikes if you get an extra mount. The bag includes two integrated tire levers as well, which cleverly stow on both sides of the bag's top piece.

I got mine from Nonstopciclismo's eBay store: SCICON ROLLER 2.1 SYSTEM SADDLE BAG ATTACHMENT CLAMP items in nonstop ciclismo store on eBay!
Thanks for the link. I assume the Roller 2.1 mount works with any saddle rail? I have a Brooks. I like the security and minimalism. I have a Campy Chorus aero seatpost and I'd hate to sully it with a velcro strap wrapping around. I actually like their minimal Aeronaut pod: Scicon Aeronaut Roller Silicone Saddle Bag Black | eBay No zippers to come undone! Strictly flat repair equipment. Maybe you could squeeze a small multi-tool in there.

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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Where do you carry your food?

Your setup isn't very "pro" btw. Smilie face.
Heah, I can't dispute your assessment. My setup is about as "pro" as I am. Nada!

Actually, I rarely ride longer than two hours and hardly ever carry food. But I have. Whenever I have needed to carry food on a ride, I have put the necessary wallet contents (ID, credit card, one bank note) in my bag in the middle pocket and freed up one for the food.
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Originally Posted by Niloc
Thanks for the link. I assume the Roller 2.1 mount works with any saddle rail? I have a Brooks. I like the security and minimalism. I have a Campy Chorus aero seatpost and I'd hate to sully it with a velcro strap wrapping around. I actually like their minimal Aeronaut pod: Scicon Aeronaut Roller Silicone Saddle Bag Black | eBay No zippers to come undone! Strictly flat repair equipment. Maybe you could squeeze a small multi-tool in there.

Woof! Woof! OMG, that is horrible.
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
I use a small bar bag. No surprises as you can see it as you ride.



Two headlights, two horns, a bag and a compass. No one can say you're not prepared.
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Arundel Dual is a good bag.
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Originally Posted by seymour1910
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Just ordered one of these. Great idea...thanks.
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I love the Topeak bags with the clip-on connection. If I go into a store or restaurant then I can just unclip the whole bag and carry it with me.
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