105 or ultegra? please help!!!!
I'm still new to all this and I'm trying to decide what bike to buy. I don't race, but I do like to group ride. I'm trying to figure out if I should get 105 or ultegra components. I'm looking at a 2013 bianchi IMPULSO ultegra and the 2013 Scott speedster 20 with 105s the bianchi is $400 more then the Scott. Is it worth the $400 extra for the riding I do?
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105 is good .....
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I personally went with 105 over Ultegra since I didn't feel the price difference was worth it.
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What are the other differences (like wheels) - and which bike feels/fits better? If 6800, the Bianchi would easily be worth $400 more (IMO). But I'm assuming this is a 5700 vs. 6700 comparison?
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Only reasons to get Ultegra over 105 is 11 speed and/or Di2 electronic shifting.
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Probably not in a first bike. The prevailing wisdom is this: if you get the cycling bug big time, you will likely want to upgrade whatever you start with fairly soon, so rhe 105 represents good economy. You aren't throwing away money on a bike you will just replace anyway. If you don't get the bug, well 105 will do fine for you forever. You wouldn't care about the Ultegra anyway. See how that works?
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Bianchi
Specifications Geometry MODEL Road C2C" IMPULSO Alu Ultegra 10sp Compact" COLOR Celeste SIZES 44-46-50-53-55-57-59-61-63 FRAME IMPULSO ALU - hydroforming triple butted FORK Fork Alu Carbon Kevlar Insert HEADSET Fsa SHIFTERS Shimano ULTEGRA 10s REAR DERAILLEUR Shimano ULTEGRA 10s FRONT DERAILLEUR Shimano 105 CRANKSET Fsa Gossamer MegaExo Compact 50-34T BB BSA CHAIN Fsa Team Issue CN-910 10sp SPROCKET Shimano Tiagra 10s 11-28T BRAKES Reparto Corse WHEELS Maddux RX 5.1 LITE TIRES Hutchinson Equinox 2 STEM Reparto Corse Alu HANDLEBAR Reparto Corse Compact Alu GRIPS La spirale Ribbon SEATPOST Reparto Corse Alu SADDLE Selle San Marco new Ponza Power PEDALS Scott TECHNOLOGY SPECS GEOMETRY SIZE CHART Frame Speedster Aero / D.Butted 6061 Alloy / Road geometry / Integrated Head Tube Fork Speedster Carbon/Alloy 1 1/8" Alloy steerer Headset Integrated Cartridge Rear Derailleur Shimano 105 Black RD-5701-GS 20 Speed Front Derailleur Shimano Tiagra FD-4600 Shifters Shimano 105 ST-5703 Black Dual control 20 Speed Brake Levers 0 Brakes Shimano BR-R561 Black Super SLR Dual pivot Crankset Shimano FC - R563 Black Hyperdrive 50 x 39 x 30 BB-Set Shimano 105 BB - 5700 Handlebar Syncros RR2.0 Anatomic 31.8 mm H'stem Syncros FL 2.0 1-1/8" / four Bolt 31.8 mm Pedals 0 Seatpost Syncros R1.4 Carbon/AL 31.6 Seat Syncros RR3.0 Hub (Front) Formula Team 20 H Hub (Rear) Formula Team 24 H Chain KMC X10 Cassette Shimano Tiagra CS-4600 12-30 T Spokes CN - Standard Black 2 mm Rims Syncros Race 27 Aero Profile 20 Front / 24 Rear Tires Schwalbe Lugano 700 x 25 C Weights in KG 9.40 kg Weights in LBS 20.68 lbs |
The only thing that is Ultegra on the Bianchi is the rear derailleur and the shifters.
I'd go with the Scott Speedster with the 105s. It's a good looking bike too. |
^ Yeah, I'd lean that way too after seeing the specs. Unless the Bianchi really speaks to you, go with the Scott. That $400 can buy a lot of the "extra's" or possible future upgrades (e.g. wheels).
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So specs on the Scott is better then the bianchi?
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Originally Posted by aubiecat
(Post 16799753)
The only thing that is Ultegra on the Bianchi is the rear derailleur and the shifters.
I'd go with the Scott Speedster with the 105s. It's a good looking bike too.
Originally Posted by dtrain
(Post 16799771)
^ Yeah, I'd lean that way too after seeing the specs. Unless the Bianchi really speaks to you, go with the Scott. That $400 can buy a lot of the "extra's" or possible future upgrades (e.g. wheels).
not even a full Ultegra group. If you like the Scott and they have your size, get it. Use the $400 for a helmet, shoes/pedals, and clothes if you don't have that already. |
Originally Posted by Shawnp204
(Post 16799852)
So specs on the Scott is better then the bianchi?
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Originally Posted by aubiecat
(Post 16799753)
The only thing that is Ultegra on the Bianchi is the rear derailleur and the shifters.
Worth the 400 dollars. |
One is a triple and one is a compact.
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So your saying the bianchi is worth the extra 400?
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What's better triple or compact?
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Originally Posted by Shawnp204
(Post 16799899)
What's better triple or compact?
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Originally Posted by Shawnp204
(Post 16799894)
So your saying the bianchi is worth the extra 400?
At this point I would say ride both and see what you like about each. The group will not matter if you hate how the bike feels. |
Originally Posted by seymour1910
(Post 16799919)
well, one person said that. IMO after riding both I don't think 6700 (Ultegra) is better than 5700 (105) other than weight. If both are tuned correctly they shift the same. If it were 6800 I would say jump on it.
At this point I would say ride both and see what you like about each. The group will not matter if you hate how the bike feels. |
I just hate Celeste!
Get the Scott! :D |
I live in Florida is compact good ?
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Originally Posted by RPK79
(Post 16799939)
Are you taking into account that one is 105/ultegra mix and the other is tiagra/105 mix?
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Originally Posted by Shawnp204
(Post 16799957)
I live in Florida is compact good ?
Yes, a compact double is good for you. |
Well then the ultegra/105 is better
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I have rode both they both are really nice. I would like to eventually upgrade as I get into it more. So the bianchi already would save me money
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