Caliwild

Looks like this was asked a while back but wanted some recent opinions/advice. I can get the C24s for $850 or the Rolfs for $1000 (both are out-the-door prices). Thanks in advance.

gsa103

I have the C24s (tableless). No complaints, they roll nicely, and climb great. I love the feel of the tableless with Schwalbe One tires.

Caliwild

Thanks. Both of these are clincher. Sorry, forgot to mention that. The Dura Ace is actually $800. Is that a good deal?

Nebby10

They retail for $1k+ in the states, but if you buy them from UK sellers they'll run about $860 with free shipping.

Caliwild

Also, I am upgrading from Fulcrum Racing 3s (1565 grams). Will I notice the loss of about 170 grams in the wheelset (on climbs)?

RJM

I have Rolf Vigor Rs on my Roadeo and love them....not sure how they compare to the Elans. I find them super stiff even with the low spoke count, and they roll true and look cool.

jeff@work

No, unless there's something wrong with your Fulcrums or they're really flexy you're not going to notice a difference on climbs... if you do, chalk it up to the good old placebo effect. 170 grams is basically the difference between a full water bottle and a 3/4 full water bottle...

That said c24's are fantastic wheels. I've had the 7850 version for a few years and they've been great, but no experience with the Rolfs or Fulcrums so I can't really compare.

gsa103

I figured both were clinchers. I think the only difference between the clincher and tubeless C24 is the tubeless version comes with valve stems. So I'm pretty sure you could convert them for ~$20+$tires if you wanted to later. That's a good deal on C24s.

Now, will you notice a difference. Maybe? I noticed a difference, but I had the Racing 5 (1760g), so I dropped over a pound of wheel weight with the swap. The biggest thing I noticed was probably the swap to tubeless. It felt like traction and ride comfort improved, with a minor improvement in rolling resistance.

Caliwild

The Fulcrums transmit a little too much road vibration, so I just bought the C24s. I'll give my impressions once they're mounted. They definitely feel lighter than the fulcrums, just picking them up.

boomer76

Debating upgrading from fulcrum 4 that came on my tarmac to prima vigor...worth it?

Caliwild

OK, so the bike definitely feels lighter with the C24s on there. Also, the ride with the C24s is a lot smoother than with the fulcrum 3s... This is probably because the Shimano wheels are carbon. The carbon wheels definitely make a different sound when up to speed. Kind of cool. In terms of responsiveness, they're about equal in my eyes. The Fulcrums still look nicer to me, but the Dura Ace is nice in a subtle sort of way. I threw on some Enve skewers too and lost another 65 grams with that simple upgrade. The bike feels super light on the road and stops on a dime too. So far, the bike has shed a little over a pound...

ljp3

How noisy are the c24s compared to the Racing 3s

Caliwild

Update: Got rid of the C24s. Didn't really like them too much. The freewheel noise was annoying and they actually felt pretty harsh-riding, compared to my Fulcrum 3s. I upgraded to FFWD 58mm deep carbon wheelset with 25c tires instead of 23. What a difference! The combination of the deep carbon and the wider tires has literally transformed the ride. It's now absorbing most of the road noise/vibration and the deeper wheels make it easier to hold your speed (at higher speeds). Love the combo now...