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Originally Posted by Dannihilator
(Post 17088490)
62.1371x3=186.4113
Ok. I award you 5 internets. good work |
Originally Posted by ls01
(Post 17088407)
I think honestly and seriously, which I dont do very often, you just need to continue doing what you are doing. It is just going to take time for your body to adapt to the new demands you are placing on it. Riding long distances, climbing like a monkey , going fast on a bike. These things arent easy. A coach may make a difference but I think you could do it by yourself just as easy.
now, taper? A Hard Man (or Woman) of the road always rides hard. There is no other way. Always ask yourself, "Would Eddie do it this way?" Then you will have your answer. ride up grades, dont ride upgrades. which 2 things were opposite? I must have missed one, normally I dont state opposites until I have at least 3. So you want to do a double century but you want to do it faster than you could do it now, AND...... I bet theres a crap ton of climbing involved somewhere in here too. amIright? How many training days do you have to accomplish all this? "A hard man or woman of the road always rides hard." I'm sorry this might work for you, but as I understand training, this is a recipe for monumental un-success. Taper. Why? Because the event I have been training for since June 2 is next Sat. I have put something like 2400 miles on my legs in this training block. There is nothing more to be gained to this event by more training. The best things I can do for myself in this last week is to set myself up for success by going in to my event rested. I know from my limited experience that I respond very well to rest. The things that you are saying that are opposites are exactly what I delineated to you in my previous response- intensity and volume and at opposite ends of the spectrum. It's does not make sense to say to work both at the same time. Well, I think that there are ways to work both, but not what you are advising- go out on every ride and ride as intensely as possible. You also need to consider (when you are giving unsolicited advice, lol) who you are advising, a middle aged woman does not have the testosterone to respond to the same amount of intensity than does a say 30 year old male. I'm not going to build muscle at a rapid clip, and I need more recovery time, those are just facts of physiology. When is my double century? Dec 6. Its not that I want to ride it faster than I can now, I have not yet ridden one and am possibly not capable of it at all right now, Between now and the double, I have a climbing (7000ft) century at altitude next Sat and a climbing (10,000 ft) century on Oct 18. I have not counted training days, but I will be away middle two weeks in September. I will be 100% off the bike for two weeks in September (vacation), then about 7 full training weeks and two training break (light weeks) until the double century. Not trying to be mean about the unsolicited advice thing. I'm actually very good at taking advice. It just so happens you're telling me all kinds of things I already know, in part because you're trying to answer questions that I have not asked. |
Originally Posted by ls01
(Post 17088470)
she knows all that stuff
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I started out as a joke and hoped you would catch on. I persisted hopping you would see it. I thought it would be ridiculous enough on its own without an explaination. IWAS gong to link to the "rules" but they removed them. My apologies.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
(Post 17088501)
Hmm, I don't mean to be ungrateful or rude in any way, but I actually did not ask for training advice or even advice as to whether I should get a coach. I just told a funny story part of which included the the fact that I was considering getting a coach.
"A hard man or woman of the road always rides hard." I'm sorry this might work for you, but as I understand training, this is a recipe for monumental un-success. Taper. Why? Because the event I have been training for since June 2 is next Sat. I have put something like 2400 miles on my legs in this training block. There is nothing more to be gained to this event by more training. The best things I can do for myself in this last week is to set myself up for success by going in to my event rested. I know from my limited experience that I respond very well to rest. The things that you are saying that are opposites are exactly what I delineated to you in my previous response- intensity and volume and at opposite ends of the spectrum. It's does not make sense to say to work both at the same time. Well, I think that there are ways to work both, but not what you are advising- go out on every ride and ride as intensely as possible. You also need to consider (when you are giving unsolicited advice, lol) who you are advising, a middle aged woman does not have the testosterone to respond to the same amount of intensity than does a say 30 year old male. I'm not going to build muscle at a rapid clip, and I need more recovery time, those are just facts of physiology. When is my double century? Dec 6. Its not that I want to ride it faster than I can now, I have not yet ridden one and am possibly not capable of it at all right now, Between now and the double, I have a climbing (7000ft) century at altitude next Sat and a climbing (10,000 ft) century on Oct 18. I have not counted training days, but I will be away middle two weeks in September. I will be 100% off the bike for two weeks in September (vacation), then about 7 full training weeks and two training break (light weeks) until the double century. Not trying to be mean about the unsolicited advice thing. I'm actually very good at taking advice. It just so happens you're telling me all kinds of things I already know, in part because you're trying to answer questions that I have not asked. |
You have a good base going for it. Just build up for it then sometime in November, try for a triple metric. If that 186.4 miles is easy you are ready, if it's hard then the final 13.6 will be misery.
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Originally Posted by BillyD
(Post 17088131)
What kind of un-american, commie crapola is that? This country was built on lying, stealing and cheating. :mad:
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
(Post 17088518)
I wonder what he thinks about biscuits.
Mmmmmmmmm.....biscuitssssssss.... |
Congratulations guys and gals on the 8,000 posts. :beer: :bday:
You're beasts, all of you! Now go to bed! Except for you left coast folks where it's too early for sleep . . . . . but not necessarily for bed. :twitchy: |
Originally Posted by ls01
(Post 17088515)
I started out as a joke and hoped you would catch on. I persisted hopping you would see it. I thought it would be ridiculous enough on its own without an explaination. IWAS gong to link to the "rules" but they removed them. My apologies.
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Not tired.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
(Post 17088224)
Sorry Fred, you're own your own jam wise, I'm afraid.
See my previous response to @LAJ re:strength training. I totally believe in interval training, I benefited from that greatly previously. I also 100% agree that if you don't push yourself to work hard, you'll always stay the same. The long hills we do are great opportunities to push yourself. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. It depends on what I have on my agenda to accomplish that week, and someties how I feel. On yesterday's ride, for example, I could really just push it as much as possible because this is my taper week, I don't have anything hard coming up. So I could really go all out to stick with Mr Hillclimber as long as possible on the hills, eventually I'd drop off but I got a lot of good work in. Sort of like interval training. I think that's what the author of the power book is advocating as "strength training". Im now thinking I should have let you menfolk in on the cinnamon roll trick. Now your wives will have more trouble managing you. ;) |
Originally Posted by BillyD
(Post 17088539)
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Originally Posted by Dannihilator
(Post 17088543)
Wide awake.
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