Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Gunnar sport

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Gunnar sport

Old 08-12-14, 09:05 AM
  #1  
stewpig
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Gunnar sport

Hey guys I was wondering what you guys think about the gunnar sport frame. Is it a good frame to go fast on?
And what would you think the tubing is compared to.
stewpig is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 09:31 AM
  #2  
profjmb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 335

Bikes: Mosaic RT-1, Trek Boone, Cervelo R3 Team, Surly Cross Check, Bike Friday Pocket Rocket

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 69 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts
If going fast is your priority, there are better choices, although it's supposedly a fine frame.
profjmb is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 09:38 AM
  #3  
emveezee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Head tube is a bit longer than some road bikes, but assuming you can get the bars low enough, the frame will no be the limiting factor for how 'fast' it is. Gunnar uses quality tubes and makes great frames. 57mm reach brakes make it super versatile. I have a Roadie myself, but kinda wish I had a Sport some I could put 32s or fenders on when I felt like it.
emveezee is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 09:42 AM
  #4  
rpenmanparker 
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by emveezee View Post
Head tube is a bit longer than some road bikes, but assuming you can get the bars low enough, the frame will no be the limiting factor for how 'fast' it is. Gunnar uses quality tubes and makes great frames. 57mm reach brakes make it super versatile. I have a Roadie myself, but kinda wish I had a Sport some I could put 32s or fenders on when I felt like it.
Why would you say that the 57 mm reach brakes are versatile for someone who wants to go fast? Isn't it likely he/she will want a high end, road race style group like Ultegra, Dura Ace, Chorus or above, SRAM Force or Red coupled with 23 or 25 mm tires? How easy will it be to find medium to long reach brakes in those groups? OP has expressed no interest in fat tires. Why would he want longer reach brakes?
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ View Post
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 10:13 AM
  #5  
emveezee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sure, if fast is the only concern, get a carbon aero frame sram red 22 whatever. No need to get all up in a bunch. OP asked about the Gunnar Sport. 57mm reach brakes do not preclude fast. There are a few options out there for 57mm brakes. I have no idea if the OP wants or has any interest in fatter tires. I was stating that an advantage of that frame is that you could fit them if you want. Hence, versatile. I will give you, however, that if you're too vain to have calipers that don't match your gruppo, this may not be the frame for you.

Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
Why would you say that the 57 mm reach brakes are versatile for someone who wants to go fast? Isn't it likely he/she will want a high end, road race style group like Ultegra, Dura Ace, Chorus or above, SRAM Force or Red coupled with 23 or 25 mm tires? How easy will it be to find medium to long reach brakes in those groups? OP has expressed no interest in fat tires. Why would he want longer reach brakes?
emveezee is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 10:18 AM
  #6  
rpenmanparker 
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by emveezee View Post
Sure, if fast is the only concern, get a carbon aero frame sram red 22 whatever. No need to get all up in a bunch. OP asked about the Gunnar Sport. 57mm reach brakes do not preclude fast. There are a few options out there for 57mm brakes. I have no idea if the OP wants or has any interest in fatter tires. I was stating that an advantage of that frame is that you could fit them if you want. Hence, versatile. I will give you, however, that if you're too vain to have calipers that don't match your gruppo, this may not be the frame for you.
No bunch. Just pointing out the context of the inquiry. Versatility for fenders, fat tires, etc. Didn't seem to be a concern of the OP. In fact to me the 57 mm brake requirement seems like a constraint rather than versatility in the specific context of the question. I would have listed that as a negative. YMMV
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ View Post
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 10:24 AM
  #7  
rpenmanparker 
Senior Member
 
rpenmanparker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 28,682

Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build

Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6556 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 58 Times in 36 Posts
OP, if you want a racy style, steel, road bike, i advise you look at the Ritchey Logic. Many of the others feature attachment bosses for fenders or racks and also require the longer reach brakes. They are more of the sport tourer type. The Logic is more of a pure road racer.
__________________
Robert

Originally Posted by LAJ View Post
No matter where I go, here I am...
rpenmanparker is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 10:41 AM
  #8  
bruce19
Senior Member
 
bruce19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,237

Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1634 Post(s)
Liked 1,117 Times in 652 Posts
A friend has one that weighs in under 17 lbs. I think it's a size 54. He loves the thing. Ritchey and Guru (among others) also make some nice steel frames. My Guru w/SRAM Red weighs just under 18 lbs w/Speedplays. I love mine too.
bruce19 is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 10:46 AM
  #9  
emveezee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
No bunch. Just pointing out the context of the inquiry. Versatility for fenders, fat tires, etc. Didn't seem to be a concern of the OP. In fact to me the 57 mm brake requirement seems like a constraint rather than versatility in the specific context of the question. I would have listed that as a negative. YMMV
Constraint or advantage depend on things that seem to be unknown by the short question posed. I'll confess that I've owned a Sport, a SuperSix, and few other frames concurrently. 'Fast' or slow seemed to mostly depend on me, bike fit, and bike build, in that order. Can you get a lighter frame than the Sport? Sure. Will it make you faster? Marginally, perhaps, depending on what you're doing with it. I've since narrowed my collection down to two bikes. A Gunnar Roadie and a cross bike. If I had to narrow down to one, the Sport would certainly be on my list because you can ride it as a 'fast' bike.

If someone is looking at steel frames, the Sport doesn't lose much to other road frames. Differences from traditional race bike are slightly longer stays, 0.5-1.0 degree slacker head angle, and the much discussed longer reach brakes. It will feel a bit more stable and less responsive. Good or bad, depending on your view.
emveezee is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 10:47 AM
  #10  
emveezee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Didn't actually weight it, but a reasonable build felt pretty light.

emveezee is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 11:42 AM
  #11  
halfspeed
Senior Member
 
halfspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SE Minnesota
Posts: 12,275

Bikes: are better than yours.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by stewpig View Post
Hey guys I was wondering what you guys think about the gunnar sport frame. Is it a good frame to go fast on?
And what would you think the tubing is compared to.
Vague requirements are vague. Why are you asking about the Sport, what's your budget and what kind of riding do you plan on doing? It's a fine frame for what it is, but there might be something better for you (or not).
__________________
Telemachus has, indeed, sneezed.
halfspeed is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 11:45 AM
  #12  
NormanF
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,737
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
We all started out on a sports touring bike. A racier road bike would be nice but unless you're seriously training to be a pro, riding a bike built for day rides is all you really need.
NormanF is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 11:52 AM
  #13  
stewpig
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Well I kinda want a bike for commuting, bike long distances and to go fast.
Pretty much a well rounded bike. Having the rack mounts will allow for touring. But I just don't know anything about the frame. And I love going fast so I was wondering because on their site they says it's a more upright riding position
stewpig is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 12:00 PM
  #14  
halfspeed
Senior Member
 
halfspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: SE Minnesota
Posts: 12,275

Bikes: are better than yours.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by stewpig View Post
Well I kinda want a bike for commuting, bike long distances and to go fast.
Pretty much a well rounded bike. Having the rack mounts will allow for touring. But I just don't know anything about the frame. And I love going fast so I was wondering because on their site they says it's a more upright riding position
An ultralight race bike won't be great for touring and a touring bike won't be great for racing. The Sport is a good compromise.
__________________
Telemachus has, indeed, sneezed.
halfspeed is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 12:01 PM
  #15  
NormanF
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,737
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 147 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by stewpig View Post
Well I kinda want a bike for commuting, bike long distances and to go fast.
Pretty much a well rounded bike. Having the rack mounts will allow for touring. But I just don't know anything about the frame. And I love going fast so I was wondering because on their site they says it's a more upright riding position
Its intended to fill the gap between a touring bike and a road bike. Most people don't need a touring bike - its heavy like a tank - built for long distance hauling and a road bike is simply too light and not built in mind with commuting. That is where the Gunnar Sports comes in and its designed so you can ride on the drops like you do on a hybrid bike. If you really want to go fast, a road bike is the answer but if you want to enjoy the sights, have fun and do commuting in between, the Gunnar Sports is just the right kind of bike for what you apparently contemplate to do with it.
NormanF is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 12:07 PM
  #16  
emveezee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 142
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by stewpig View Post
Well I kinda want a bike for commuting, bike long distances and to go fast.
Pretty much a well rounded bike. Having the rack mounts will allow for touring. But I just don't know anything about the frame. And I love going fast so I was wondering because on their site they says it's a more upright riding position
I dare say the Sport would be very suitable for what you describe. As long as your dimensions aren't too unusual and you're on a properly sized frame, you should probably be able to set it up as aggressive as you need it. Always best to check in person, but if you can't, you can compare specs of your current bike (assuming you have that set up right) with the fit tool on the Gunnar site to check if it's in the ballpark.
emveezee is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 12:32 PM
  #17  
stewpig
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanks for the replies. I have never toured and i think this might be good for light and beginner touring. So thanks again for all the info I appreacate it.
stewpig is offline  
Old 08-12-14, 09:07 PM
  #18  
Pb_Okole
Who is Austin Dunbar?
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SE Iowa
Posts: 270

Bikes: Gunnar Sport, Lynskey Sportive, Lynskey GR 270,

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by stewpig View Post
Hey guys I was wondering what you guys think about the gunnar sport frame. Is it a good frame to go fast on?
And what would you think the tubing is compared to.
I currently own a Domane 4 series, a Madone 6 series, a Litespeed Icon, and a Gunnar Sport. If I could only keep one bike, it would be the Gunnar. It's not the lightest of the bunch but it rides so nice and with the right wheels is not that much slower than any of the others. I particularly like the 57 mm brakes. I have a wheelset with 25 mm tires, one with 28s and one with 32s. I can use any set without messing with brake adjustments.
Pb_Okole is offline  
Old 08-13-14, 06:10 AM
  #19  
shelbyfv
Expired Member
 
shelbyfv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: TN
Posts: 10,163
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3031 Post(s)
Liked 3,998 Times in 2,019 Posts
I have a Sport with the Gunnar steel fork. I like it and don't see how you could go wrong, given your planned use. The additional tire clearance is useful and the 57mm brakes are not an issue. I have Tektros that work great with Kool Stop pads and look fine with my otherwise DA/ Ultegra group. Shimano also has Ultegra level 57mm brakes. The Gunnar frames are well made and available in a variety of colors. Spend some time with the fit tool. These frames use standard size components and you can build the bike up to any spec you want. I've used mine as compact triple, compact double, standard triple and now back to compact double. I don't know what the delivery time is but I doubt it's excessive.
shelbyfv is offline  
Old 08-13-14, 04:26 PM
  #20  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 21,337
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5728 Post(s)
Liked 5,493 Times in 2,814 Posts
I have a Kestrel fork on mine. About 35,000 miles on it with lots of climbing.
big john is offline  
Old 08-14-14, 04:16 AM
  #21  
bruce19
Senior Member
 
bruce19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,237

Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1634 Post(s)
Liked 1,117 Times in 652 Posts
Then there's this: https://greglemond.com/#!/washoe

I am glad to see Greg back after Trek dumped him because he spoke the truth about Armstrong.
bruce19 is offline  
Old 10-27-14, 11:53 AM
  #22  
rickpaulos
Full Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: middle of the Great Corn Desert
Posts: 348
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 90 Post(s)
Liked 82 Times in 57 Posts
Originally Posted by bruce19 View Post
Then there's this: https://greglemond.com/#!/washoe

I am glad to see Greg back after Trek dumped him because he spoke the truth about Armstrong.
Says "Made and painted in the USA". Any ideas on where in the USA or by whom?
rickpaulos is offline  
Old 10-27-14, 12:27 PM
  #23  
bruce19
Senior Member
 
bruce19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,237

Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1634 Post(s)
Liked 1,117 Times in 652 Posts
Originally Posted by rickpaulos View Post
Says "Made and painted in the USA". Any ideas on where in the USA or by whom?
Just got off the phone with Eric at LeMond. He says the steel frames are being made by Zen on the west coast. He thought they were based in Washington. I'm going to do a search right now. The CF bikes are made by Time in France.
bruce19 is offline  
Old 10-27-14, 12:29 PM
  #24  
bruce19
Senior Member
 
bruce19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,237

Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1634 Post(s)
Liked 1,117 Times in 652 Posts
Portland, OR
bruce19 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
icepick_trotsky
Classic & Vintage
21
05-31-15 02:58 PM
wunderkind
Bicycle Mechanics
18
02-09-15 10:30 PM
Shibbyabc
Classic & Vintage
2
11-13-11 12:11 PM
Elantr025
Road Cycling
2
01-20-11 12:46 PM
dcombs
Bicycle Mechanics
3
02-28-10 07:30 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.