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bruce19 09-09-14 05:33 PM

Saddle fit...amazing new machine
 
Trek/Bontrager has come up with a device that can map your pressure points on the saddle. This was developed by a German company and is absolutely amazing. There are only 3 of these devices in the US at present. Bicycles East in Glastonbury, CT has one and Steve, the owner along with wife Deb, let me be the first "test dummy" for it. I just got back from the shop and all I can say is it's amazing. This thing maps pressure points and gives a computerized graphic display of pressure points and numerical values of the pressure intensity. For me what I discovered was that despite the old "sit on the pad and measure the distance between sitz bones" method, I actually need a narrower seat. I have the readout that Steve sent me but I don't think if I can upload it here. If you would like to see it just email me at bruce19@charter.net.

FLvector 09-09-14 05:48 PM

Is this just a ploy to email pics of your ass??

otg 09-09-14 05:51 PM

Subbing, Bicycles East isn't too for from me. Nice shop.

WHOOOSSHHH... 09-09-14 05:57 PM

How do we know it's amazing if you've yet to test the new saddle it's chosen for your ass??

RUOkie 09-09-14 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 17116033)
How do we know it's amazing if you've yet to test the new saddle it's chosen for your ass??

Because he said so!! there were graphs and charts and things!!! DUH!

bruce19 09-09-14 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by FLvector (Post 17116007)
Is this just a ploy to email pics of your ass??

If it was I wouldn't be posting it here.

bruce19 09-09-14 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 17116033)
How do we know it's amazing if you've yet to test the new saddle it's chosen for your ass??

A good question. But, I can tell you that I started with my existing saddle and went to others and could tell a difference that was consistent with the readout. And besides it's science.

halfspeed 09-09-14 06:18 PM

So much win in this thread already.

Garfield Cat 09-09-14 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by bruce19 (Post 17115961)
Trek/Bontrager has come up with a device that can map your pressure points on the saddle. This was developed by a German company and is absolutely amazing. There are only 3 of these devices in the US at present. Bicycles East in Glastonbury, CT has one and Steve, the owner along with wife Deb, let me be the first "test dummy" for it. I just got back from the shop and all I can say is it's amazing. This thing maps pressure points and gives a computerized graphic display of pressure points and numerical values of the pressure intensity. For me what I discovered was that despite the old "sit on the pad and measure the distance between sitz bones" method, I actually need a narrower seat. I have the readout that Steve sent me but I don't think if I can upload it here. If you would like to see it just email me at bruce19@charter.net.

Maybe try the test again. This time with a narrower saddle. Then let's see what the pressure points say. Another way is what frame engineers use. A strain gauge setup that measures the movement while you are on a ride. Rather than to simulate a ride indoors on fixed position, make it dynamic with real riding conditions, and maybe different shorts while you're at it.

Shorts with minimal padding like the triathletes use and then regular padding from Assos all the way down to Performance brand.

woodcraft 09-09-14 06:32 PM

I think there's been an amazing machine like that out for a while. You sit on it, & it maps out the pressure points.

It's called a Sybian.

iLuveketchup 09-09-14 06:34 PM

Was this machine made by Sybian?

Edit: poster above beat me to it. lol

bigdo13 09-09-14 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by FLvector (Post 17116007)
Is this just a ploy to email pics of your ass??

LMAO! :lol:

rangerdavid 09-09-14 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 17116033)
How do we know it's amazing if you've yet to test the new saddle it's chosen for your ass??


seriously, this is BF. Don't worry about the facts..............

Shimagnolo 09-09-14 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by RUOkie (Post 17116041)
Because he said so!! there were graphs and charts and things!!! DUH!

Yes, it produces twenty-four eight by ten color glossy photographs with circles and arrows, and a paragraph on the back explaining the meaning of each.

datlas 09-09-14 08:20 PM

Q: How is this printout similar to the solar system?

A: Because there is a small ring around Uranus.

WhyFi 09-09-14 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 17116033)
How do we know it's amazing if you've yet to test the new saddle it's chosen for your ass??

Damnit. Whooosshhh with a smart, succinct comment. The end is nigh.


telebianchi 09-09-14 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 17116334)
Yes, it produces twenty-four eight by ten color glossy photographs with circles and arrows, and a paragraph on the back explaining the meaning of each.

But can you get anything you want?

bt 09-09-14 10:15 PM

this thread smells like ass.

halfspeed 09-09-14 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by bt (Post 17116745)
this thread smells like #41.

ftfy

halfspeed 09-09-14 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 17116334)
Yes, it produces twenty-four eight by ten color glossy photographs with circles and arrows, and a paragraph on the back explaining the meaning of each.

You can get anything you want...

halfspeed 09-09-14 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 17116469)
Q: How is this printout similar to the solar system?

A: Because there is a small ring around Uranus.

Is that a qualified medical opinion?

CharlyAlfaRomeo 09-09-14 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 17116033)
How do we know it's amazing if you've yet to test the new saddle it's chosen for your ass??


Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 17116766)
ftfy

Nailed it.

CharlyAlfaRomeo 09-09-14 10:39 PM

Also why the **** do some people keep calling them sitz bones? They're not named after some guy whose last name was Sitz or any crap like that, they're sit bones because you sit on them.

If you wanna act like you know something you can call them the ischial tuberosities.

datlas 09-10-14 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 17116772)
Is that a qualified medical opinion?

No. This is my inner 12 year old's opinion.

bruce19 09-10-14 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Garfield Cat (Post 17116109)
Maybe try the test again. This time with a narrower saddle. Then let's see what the pressure points say. Another way is what frame engineers use. A strain gauge setup that measures the movement while you are on a ride. Rather than to simulate a ride indoors on fixed position, make it dynamic with real riding conditions, and maybe different shorts while you're at it.

Shorts with minimal padding like the triathletes use and then regular padding from Assos all the way down to Performance brand.

Sorry I wasn't more clear. This test was done using 5 different saddles. It was recommended that I wear my regular cycling shorts which happen to be Assos.

The real test is, of course, in riding. But, I thought it was pretty impressive that this could all be computerized and graphically represented. And, because I was his first one he didn't charge me anything and let me try the saddle that seemed to fit best. Will be doing a couple rides this week to see how the results measure up. FWIW we spent about 2 hours with this just because we were both interested in all the nuances. Previously Steve had fit me to a size 58 Masi I had been riding for several years. This time I came in with my new-to-me 54 Guru and he made sure all the stats were transferred to that bike. Again, at no charge. One of the things that became abundantly clear is different positions on the bike can make a serious difference in saddle comfort. I didn't realize how significant this could be. It was a great experience.


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