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Convince me (mostly the wife) to let me buy a $5000+ bike

Old 09-15-14, 10:16 AM
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Hello,

I want to be convinced with all your sarcasm, satire, and humor to buy a $5,000-10,000+ dollar dream machine racing bicycle.

I spent $9000 dollars this year on a motorcycle and I barely ride it. Forgot to mention though, she recently bought me a birthday present, motorcycle saddlebags to get me to use it more. I think she likes going on rides on it. Selling it is out.

I spent about $3000 on my enduro road bike this year including clothing and gear. It was an entry level carbon enduro road bike and I've put thousands of miles and hundreds of hours on her over the season.

I'm considering biting the bullet and saving over the winter to emerge into next season with my dream road race geometry frame with quality components/wheels.
I do race. currently looking to enter Cat 3. Would it be worth it or not?

It sounds great to me, but then I think... it's just a light bike with no motor. Metal pipes, carbon wheels, and gadgetry. To top it off, I have 5 other bikes already. How do I justify this to, example, the wife.
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I can pretty much do whatever I want with my money, wife approved, but I'm starting out by purchasing some of the important bits instead of going gung-ho with the frame and new groupset.

I think the most beneficial thing I can do currently is biking with a computer/power. I usually find out my speed and estimated wattage after I upload my ride onto strava.

Pickin' up the Edge 1000 bundle tomorrow, and I'm looking for a power meter to go along with it.
I mainly race two bikes (Road / CX) so I'm thinking what would be friendly for these and easy to change about.

I'm thinking this might count out Garmin Vector pedals because they're one sided?

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If you are a Cat 3 (or eligible to upgrade), you should know that it isn't about the bike. Unless we are talking TT bike vs road bike + clips and a few other scenarios, all of which are still debatable. I know Cat 3s that race on decent aluminum bikes and have no issues winning. Wheels are more important imo.
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Sell a couple bikes and/or your motorcycle and use that money to get your new bike. You can argue that there's no net spending involved in this case.
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Originally Posted by oespinoza83 View Post
If you are a Cat 3 (or eligible to upgrade), you should know that it isn't about the bike. Unless we are talking TT bike vs road bike + clips and a few other scenarios, all of which are still debatable. I know Cat 3s that race on decent aluminum bikes and have no issues winning. Wheels are more important imo.
Definitely have Zipp 404's on my mind tbh because these 2400g+ basic wheelset feel sluggish. I think the rest of the bike is just for 80% personal lust factor and perhaps 20% geometry/stiffer frame.
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pic of wife?
I'm unsure about this. lol.
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Buy her something.... preferably a shiny object when you buy the bike. It's going to cost extra but it's worth it.
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Buy her something.... preferably a shiny object when you buy the bike. It's going to cost extra but it's worth it.
You sir. This answer. Is PRICELESS.
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Sell a couple bikes and/or your motorcycle and use that money to get your new bike. You can argue that there's no net spending involved in this case.
You're not going to get a better justification than this.
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First of all, it is important to accept that neither part of the following statement is true:

You need the bike if and only if you race. Not the if part, not the only if part.

Second let's strategize. I don't believe in bull****ting wives, not mine, not anybody's. I see two alternatives.

You can be right up front with her. Tell her you are an unrepentant materialist who needs to buy said bike to satisfy a totally irrational, yet very powerful urge. That's it. If she knows you as well as she should, she will likely just throw up her hands and give in. Keep in mind that she may extract equal treatment, however. So the $5,000-10,000 dollar bike could wind up costing $10,000-20,000.

On the other hand you could sell the motorcycle and three of your current bikes. Then you wouldn't have to justify the purchase to anyone, not her and not yourself.

Easy peasey, lemon squeezy.
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My other bikes probably would only get a few hundred dollars at best as theyre quite old and not as valuable unfortunately.
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That motorcycle killed it...Why do you barely ride it? Cycling instead?
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Originally Posted by Panza View Post
I want to be convinced with all your sarcasm, satire, and humor to buy a $5,000-10,000+ dollar dream machine racing bicycle.

I spent $9000 dollars this year on a motorcycle and I barely ride it. Forgot to mention though, she recently bought me a birthday present, motorcycle saddlebags to get me to use it more. I think she likes going on rides on it. Selling it is out.
I forgot the part about "sarcasm, satire, and humor"... so... Sell the dang motorcycle, buy the bike, and ride the wife.
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Question is are you going to race a $5K+ bike and be okay with it?
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Hello,

I want to be convinced with all your sarcasm, satire, and humor to buy a $5,000-10,000+ dollar dream machine racing bicycle.

I spent $9000 dollars this year on a motorcycle and I barely ride it. Forgot to mention though, she recently bought me a birthday present, motorcycle saddlebags to get me to use it more. I think she likes going on rides on it. Selling it is out.

I spent about $3000 on my enduro road bike this year including clothing and gear. It was an entry level carbon enduro road bike and I've put thousands of miles and hundreds of hours on her over the season.

I'm considering biting the bullet and saving over the winter to emerge into next season with my dream road race geometry frame with quality components/wheels.
I do race. currently looking to enter Cat 3. Would it be worth it or not?

It sounds great to me, but then I think... it's just a light bike with no motor. Metal pipes, carbon wheels, and gadgetry. To top it off, I have 5 other bikes already. How do I justify this to, example, the wife.
Not sure of your experience with frame characteristics but "dream geometry" may not be what you expect. After racing for 27 seasons I bought a custom frame. I immediately had one major thing I had to change. I ordered another frame the following year and it was fine. I then sent the first frame back and had the builder modify it (at my expense).

Now that I've done that I love both my custom bikes. Both would be considered somewhat cutting edge frames. In 1998. By today's standards it's an entry level frame. It's fine. I upgraded to Cat 2 on that first frame with its major flaw. The flaw - due to weight distribution issues the rear wheel chattered/skipped in pretty much every turn, even while coasting, and I couldn't pedal like I usually do in corners. A shorter chainstay fixed it and made the frame even snappier out of the saddle.

As far as convincing the wife. When I was looking for an SRM ($2.5-3k) I found a complete Record-SRM SystemSix bike for sale through a bike shop. When I called her to get a feel for her opinion on what I should do (it was just a little under your $5k number) her first question was, "Did you buy it?" When I answered no she asked me, "What are you waiting for??" She's an ally in my cycling, not an opponent.
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Give the motorcycle to your wife, that frees you up for a new bicycle.
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Give the motorcycle to your wife, that frees you up for a new bicycle.
But if he does that he'll have to give her rides!
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Convince the wife that you need a new road bike to stay in top form so you'll be around for her much longer. Then promise after every weekend ride that you'll take her for a ride.... and then one on the motorcycle.
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I bought a $5K bike without asking her and she still won't leave me.

I don't know what I gotta do...she's like a booger on my finger...I keep shaking and shaking, but she still hangs around.
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How long have you been married**********

Wife and I have been married 41 years. Went looking for a bike and found this Propel Advanced SL 0 (2015) | Giant Bicycles | United States. She really like it and so did I but I said I really don't need one that expensive. I said the $5,000 dollar bike is fine, she asked if I was sure, I said yes and she said get it.

Go in with very high expectations and ask if it's OK to spend far less and mention that you will still be very happy with it.
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Originally Posted by bt View Post
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^^^ this, where she ranks on the 1-10 scale will dictate your approach.

2-5 -- Man up and do what you want and buy a bike for your side girl also.
5-7 -- Create a thread on BikeForums.net asking for help on how to convince your wife to buy you a bike. Or do point #1 depending on her build.
7-10 -- You should be too tired from having sex 4 times per day every day to worry about a bike.

I hope this helps.
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Give the motorcycle to your wife, that frees you up for a new bicycle.
Then the wife's going to look hot riding the motorcycle. She then meets some guy, leave the OP, and he can buy the bike. Everyone is happy
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CAAD10 is cheap... and just as light (if not lighter) than carbon.

$4400 gets the top of the line (though it's got non-race friendly discs)
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Originally Posted by Panza View Post
[h=2]Convince me (mostly the wife) to let me buy a $5000+ bike[/h]
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.

I'm eyeing a Emonda SLR Red 22. I'm not worried about the wife, but my son. He's a cyclist and knows what it will cost.

But then, he has a Madone 6.7 with Red.
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