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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 04-05-05, 09:24 PM
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Lots of people pass me on my bike. I am certainly not a fast rider, and I don't need to have a custom steel frame outfitted with Record, But you know what.... I love the way it rides so I'm gonna keep it. That said, I usually will kick it up a notch if someone is in front or gaining on me from behind.... especially up hills.... The only guys I really enjoy passing are the madone riders in full postal/discovery gear... (mostly cause I'm on a steel frame, and steel is too heavy to keep up with a Madone.. "Bridge to engine room more power!" ...but there is no more power.
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I have to dissagree.

Well i'm one of the most stubburn people any of you will probably ever meet, as soon as i start a ride i have to go thru 3 sets of lights to get out of the city, and everytime i stop, i'll undoubtably see someone looking at me from their car, and try to race them off the line, which usualy works, bikes can get up to 40k/h faster then your average sedan, of course i burn myself out in 20 seconds then start puffing.
After, even if i don't race a car (woohooo i'm smart) i'll crank it on the flats heading out the city, just cause their flats... and be dead after 10k. Then wonder why i can't get over the roller coaster of roads that is know as the outerlimits of the city.

The one or two times i just went out for a stroll, then picked it up at the end was probably the best rides i've ever had, probably cause it's the fact that i'm actually warming up properly, something i wish i could get into the habbit of doing. But 20 minute commuting doesn't exactly lend it's self to great warm ups and cool downs.

Anyways back to my stubborness..

Relying once again on my vast inteliectual superiority (LOL) the moment i see someone i'll pick up, as spong said, it's just a nice way to train, try and catch someone then slow down, find someone else, then do it again. But when i pass people i usualy don't say anything, or ever look at them, just kinda keep doing my own thing, it's just the urg to push MYSELF, i don't care about what the other person thinks, or that they're there, i'll push myself to catch a slow moving car, the sunset, anything to help me drive myself.
Maybe you guys are just reading into things to much, granted there are several morons out there, but i'm sure i've been taken for a jack*** more then once when i was just pushing myself, all because i didn't say "hi".

That being said, i dont 't let me people pass me. Unless i'm about to pass out, i'll catch back up to them and smoke them right back, even after 80k, even though i know i'll probably have to walk up my hill at the foot of my driveway (pretty smart eh? lol).
There used to be this one guy on some department store bike that used to race me to university everytime he saw me, and everytime i would catch him, it got annoying after a while, and i just found a better root to take anyways.

Just my 2 cents.. probably didn't make sense though lol
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Originally Posted by larue
a post where someone talks about dropping another rider. Such as the reply in the Overrated thread:
"but the poseurs that ride litespeeds around think their king sh*t just cuz they got a purty light, very expensive bike do look funny when i pass them on a hill with my fixie."

Am I the only one that likes to take it easy from time to time, or that actually gets a little tired on the ride home? Dropping some dude/dudette you run into and don't even know is no accomplishment. You have no idea if they are racing, are on the way back from a century, or sick even. But people still have the gall to assume they are king for dropping some anonymous identity on a bike.

Just thought I'd rant a little. I read phrases like this on here so often it's beyond annoying.

Plus I just bought a Litespeed frame.....
heh.

I wrote that on the overrated thread, and let me clear somethings up. First of all, i'm the last person to be competetive, since i'm kinda out of shape, but when I do ride my fixie and not the roadie, sometimes i get a negative reaction from the roadies in the park. I'll pass by on my IRO and nod and smile, i try to do that with everyone, I'm fairly friendly. Sometimes, NOT always, i'll get a look from them like I'm stupid and am not worthy of looking upon them. Thats when i get annoyed and feel a bit better when i'm chuggin my way up a hill and manage to catch up to them. Maybe they've just done 75 miles, maybe their taking it easy, but I feel good knowing that I'm able to do the same hill on 46x14. So don't get me wrong, i'm usually the guy that gets passed and don't really care either way. I used it as an example of elitist roadies that think just cuz i don't have a fancy bike i must not be a real bicyclist. We've all had plenty of discussions about this issue. Just thought I'd defend myself here a bit.
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btw, got passed constantly today doing loops in prospect park, but was too tired to even notice who passed me, I think a couple of old ladies passed my on hybrids. They had some bling hybrids so I tried to drop them but they schooled me anyways.
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Old 04-05-05, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wangster
btw, got passed constantly today doing loops in prospect park, but was too tired to even notice who passed me, I think a couple of old ladies passed my on hybrids. They had some bling hybrids so I tried to drop them but they schooled me anyways.
Don't ever try top drop an old lady with lots of bling bling. She'll only smack you with her purse as you pass.
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well it's good to take pride in your ability wangster, and I the thread's not based on your comment alone it just happened to be a recent one so I used it as an example. yes there are certainly elitists, snobs and poseurs out there, but I ride next to my Fuji track riding friend all the time heh.
in general I just don't understand the mindset of passing someone you don't know.
I do on the other hand understand and appreciate the feeling of catching up with someone you don't know who happens to be fast.
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Old 04-05-05, 10:15 PM
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I have no problem passing someone if i'm going faster, but i generally don't make it a point to try to catch up and pass someone, takes too much effort, just makes me tired quicker and the ride shorter.
I understand your beef about people that are too competetive. I can't stand that either, my statement just wasn't well thoughout. and I do realize that it sounded dumb, but hey we all say stupid sh*t every now and then.
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Old 04-05-05, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wangster
I can't stand that either, my statement just wasn't well thoughout. and I do realize that it sounded dumb, but hey we all say stupid sh*t every now and then.
Indeed, and I've been as guilty of that as everyone else.

Well I got my rant done and over. Thanks for chiming in everyone. Now go out and pretend you are exhausted so you can lure in some of those overly competitive king sh*ts into thinking they can drop you. Make sure when you pass em you take the toff of your water bottle, down what's left, and throw it over your shoulder in victory. they'll never expect it.
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Old 04-05-05, 10:24 PM
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I'm a recreational cyclist. I rode with a local race team on Saturday, which is their casual ride day. I got dropped twice! Of course, wind was gusting up to 25 mph, and the racing gene kicked in about 20 miles left in our 50 mile ride. I would pull for 30 seconds, then the train would just rocket past me. Fortunately, they waited up both times at stop lights a few miles later, especially since I didn't know the route.

Before the ride, I had a tendency to view racers as more likely to be elitist and arrogant. But seldom do generalizations prove true in real life. They were very nice guys, they just happened to be a lot faster than me.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
wow, that's wild. you mean you didn't even lecture someone you didn't know about something that is none of your business! congrats
ROFL - that is sooo funny
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Old 04-05-05, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Machka
This situation has happened to me a few times ...

I'm a Randonneur. My ride/events are LONG. So, there I am ... wrapping up a 600K (34+ hour) brevet ... where I've been riding through rain and sleet ...

Then out of nowhere comes some fresh, young rider all kitted out in racing gear on an ultra-light bicycle with not so much as a seatpack. Knowing the routes around where I live, I'm pretty sure his whole ride won't be more than 60K. I can see him there behind me, huffing and puffing to catch me ... and then he roars past with this really intense look on his face as though catching and passing me is the greatest accomplishment of his day.
yeah and when they catch up to you at the light and ask "how many miles have you put in" They've always ridden further...yet...oddly the gear and clothes are clean and dry...go figure

Just chim'n in...it only happens about 1X/month...just a chuckle.
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Hey, you CAN drop someone you don't know! I've done it (once).

I passed a rider one morning and said, "on your left, good morning." No reply to the "good morning." After I passed him he picked up his pace a little and grabbed my wheel without asking.

Now, I take exception to people hopping on my wheel unannounced. I think it's rude. If you ask and if I'm up to it, sure, let's trade pulls!

Anyway, I gradually picked up the pace to 20mph and held it for 1/2 mile. That's 2 mph faster than his speed when I passed him. He's still on my wheel. "Oh," I said to myself, "you want to play. Let's play then." We arrived at a short small hill. I poured on the gas as smoothly as possible without changing my body position, my cadence or my breathing. I wanted to look like I wasn't working (even though I was!) and I didn't want it to look like I was deliberately trying to shake him.

It worked.
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Old 04-05-05, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
The only riders I intentionally drop are ones who look like accidents waiting to happen. I don't want to be anywhere near those types.

And also anyone who tries to pass me on a hill. They're just asking for it.

I wouldn't try to pass you on a hill i would pass you on a hill. 140lbs with a 390 watt threshold, im not to be rekon with.
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this is not quite as big as the lance story, but just thought i'd share. I was finishing a harder workout and just spinning for a few hours to cooldown in the Manitou, Colorado area and saw a guy in a Discovery Team kit a little ways ahead, so i put my head down and chased and ended up riding a few miles chatting with Mike Creed of team Discovery. A very nice guy, even acted interested in my racing. It is really nice to meet a pro, and realize that even they take easy days.
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Usually, just finishing the Sunday ride with my group is a big enough sense of accomplishment for me and boosts my ego enough that I don't feel the need to chase down folks. However, if someone tries to pass me when I'm on my cool down back to the house I might have to make 'em work a bit.
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Old 04-06-05, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pacesetter
I wouldn't try to pass you on a hill i would pass you on a hill. 140lbs with a 390 watt threshold, im not to be rekon with.
6.14 watts/kg? At your threshold?? I'm impressed. The best Euro pros TT at their functional threshold with 6.0 wattts/kg.

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Originally Posted by pacesetter
I wouldn't try to pass you on a hill i would pass you on a hill. 140lbs with a 390 watt threshold, im not to be rekon with.
Nope you sure aren't...I don't have time to "reckon" with guys like you. It is sh*t like this that makes me enjoy my 1AM solo rides all the more. If someone is going faster than me and wants to pass me then pass me and have a nice ride...if I am going faster than someone and pass them..I will say hello and keep going. I don't ever (and probably couldn't) increase my speed JUST to pass someone. I am 44 yrs old and just back on the bike after many years, if passing a guy like ME strokes your ego, then I am happy to be fodder for you.
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I always feel good about dropping a tram (for several kilometres). Its always a pretty close battle depending on how busy the traffic is, and how many stops the tram does. Pity that when I'll get a new road bike, there'll no longer be any competition. (for me that is)
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Sometimes it bothers me that it bothers me when I get passed. I've tried psychotherapy, electroshock treatment, etc but still I don't like being passed.
Amen! A passing rider is a red cloth, it always destroys my intention of a recovery ride. It´s actually best if they´re really fast so i quickly loose all hope of catching up
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To the side of the subject;
I only ride alone. And from that perspective I always stop if I see a cyclist on the side of the road and ask if they need help. Although I am always packing the right tools and supplies, I know what its like to be in a jam and have a group of cyclists fly by with out even a thought. I also hear the surprise on the voices of the fellow cyclists I stop to offer help to. Its like they can't believe I would interrupt my ride to help another, or maybe its because they know they would not have stopped.

Maybe its just the attitude in the Northeast, I don't know, but I feel it is almost my responsibility to the sport to help another cyclist out.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat
wow, that's wild. you mean you didn't even lecture someone you didn't know about something that is none of your business! congrats
Let me take you back to classic SNL:

Zigg, you ignorant ****...
You take a shot at me just assuming that I wanted to lecture someone about NOT wearing a helmet. Did the post say that? I don't think so. Maybe I was just thinking about how unusual it was for me to see someone riding without one on their melon....not that it's necessarily a bad thing.

Your turn...
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Originally Posted by marcusbandito
I also hear the surprise on the voices of the fellow cyclists I stop to offer help to. Its like they can't believe I would interrupt my ride to help another, or maybe its because they know they would not have stopped.

Maybe its just the attitude in the Northeast, I don't know, but I feel it is almost my responsibility to the sport to help another cyclist out.
It must just be the attitude in the Northeast. Whenever I'm stopped on the roadside around here (San Francisco Bay Area), at least a dozen riders will ask if I need anything.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
It must just be the attitude in the Northeast. Whenever I'm stopped on the roadside around here (San Francisco Bay Area), at least a dozen riders will ask if I need anything.
That's how it is up here in OR. The maiden "voyage" of my new ride a while back was cut short at 4 miles because the bead of my new tire wouldn't hold. I must have had 20+ offers of assistance on my walk back home (4 mi in SPD SL cleats). Very friendly people up here.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
It must just be the attitude in the Northeast. Whenever I'm stopped on the roadside around here (San Francisco Bay Area), at least a dozen riders will ask if I need anything.
Ditto. And I always ask, "you guys OK?" when I pass someone stopped, too. Thankfully I've never needed anything and no one's ever needed anything from me . . . but it's nice to know at least you have a pretty good chance if you ever do need it!
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Originally Posted by 03FinestAL
That's how it is up here in OR. The maiden "voyage" of my new ride a while back was cut short at 4 miles because the bead of my new tire wouldn't hold. I must have had 20+ offers of assistance on my walk back home (4 mi in SPD SL cleats). Very friendly people up here.
Unless you are from CA . . .
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