Campag4life

Speaking of internal routing cable bits, does anybody know where the cable housings with integrated straws can be purchased separately?
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garysol1 

Just ..... and I mean JUST got done with the build on my new Emonda SLR8. Took me way longer than I thought it would mainly just trying to figure out the best way to do the cabling and lengths and what not. My only big beef is that the supplied seatmast is to short. Now I am 5'8" and ride a 74cm saddle height. That is about as average as a guy who rides a 54cm bike gets. The supplied mast will only go to 73cm.

GlennR

They make a 170mm seat mast.. I have one on my SLR.

garysol1 

Already on order. Just seems like a poor spec for a 54cm bike not to fit a normal 5'8" guy as is. When you read the specs it shows a minimum and maximum saddle height it just fails to mention that you need the taller seatmast to cover that range.

GlennR

One of the problems with buying a "stock" bike is they make assumptions like seatmast height, crank arm length and bar width. If you went Project One, you could pick parts specific to your fit.

GlennR

I recently upgraded from Sram Red 22 mechanical to eTap. While it's really nice, it's not groundbreaking over the mechanical.

garysol1 

^^^^ Very nice indeed!! 14.2 pound!!

garysol1 

I just got home from a 35 mile shakedown ride and all I can say is wow. The bike was incredibly fast especially when the road goes up. For all that performance the bike was very compliant and comfortable. Coming from a Roubaix I was a bit concerned about a harsh ride but I had no reason to worry. With the stock aluminum Bontrager wheels, 105 pedals, 2 cages and a Garmin mount the bike weighed in at 14.1lbs

Campag4life

Gary,
Which model Roubaix did you have? Can you give us a comparison between the Emonda..handling...overall impressions?
Thanks

garysol1 

Let me start off by saving I loved my Roubaix. It was a 2013 SL4 with Ultegra electronic. I really had no complaints on the Roubaix and I was not looking to swap bikes when the SLR opportunity happened. Comparing the two are hard as they were designed for two completely different jobs but I will give it a go. The Roubaix biggest advantage as expected is ride quality. The compliance was so great it sometimes felt dead with no feedback where as the SLR has tons of feedback. I feel everything but not to the point were it is intrusive. Handling wise the SLR turns fast and quick but I really don't have enough miles on it yet to know how it handles really fast twisty descents but after my initial impression I assume it will be quick turning and planted. The Roubaix on the other hand was stable.... stable as a Mack truck. Turn in was very slow compared to the Emonda but once I found a line it would hold it no matter what.
Overall impressions..... Roubaix is a great partner to watch the miles go buy where as the Emonda is the fun partner to go dancing with. In a perfect world I would have both bikes but I do still have my AWOL for those long long rides.

Campag4life

Your assessment of your SL4 Roubaix is pretty true to what I believe about my my SL3 Roubaix Pro...mine is with Campy Chorus 11s. Some btw pan the SL4 Roubaix for its stiff ride and you say nothing of the sort...you say the bike damps everything...which is what I perceive about my SL3...and I have been reluctant to change to a SL4 for concern over the harsher rear triangle...as reported by some.

As great as the Roubaix is...the difference you noted about the Emonda no doubt is true as reported by others who own the bike. Trek nailed the Emonda on many levels from ride to handling...a light bike. Lots to love. In fact, it is a bike I too would consider to replace the Roubaix....but two things for me keep from going ga ga over the Emonda.

1. I hate the seat post. Hate is a strong word but as it turns out the seat 'clamp' and BB of any bike are pretty huge relative to a bikes given character. Yes, without a doubt the 'tuned' mast with slip over seat post Trek uses on this bike and others delivers great ride quality. No question and the centerpiece of the design. But few loathe a single rotory seat clamp as much as me. It violates my design sensibility. A 2 bolt clamp used by countless mfr's is so much more robust for lower seat rail clamping force and less torque to keep seat tilt in place. This really bugs me about Trek, Cervelo and others. Specialized by contrast for both Tarmac, Roubaix and Diverge use a std. 27.2mm design that can accommodate any seat clamp design one desires. Thank you Specialized.

2. The Roubaix SL4 for 2016 in Expert model...a $3K bike with Ultegra with excellent 10r carbon...comes with an English Threaded BB.

no.1 and 2 above along with the Roubaix's wonderful pedigree are compelling reasons to buy the Roubaix which as you point out is a different 'feeling' bike than the Emonda...but don't believe the Roubaix is slower...unless it can't be built quite as light...which is possible if building the highest priced Emonda with lightest components...but that weight value would be close if opting for light components on the Roubaix.

Thanks for your comparison Gary and I appreciate your assessment comparing ride impressions of both bikes which I believe to be spot on relative to reviews of each bike. Congrats on your Emonda...impossible to find a bad review of it.

garysol1 

As I know you know tire selection can also play a great part in ride quality. On the Roubaix I ran almost exclusively the Specialized Roubaix Pro 23/25 tires at 100psi. Some of the ride credit has to go there as well. I have never ridden the SL3 Roubaix but I just cant imagine anyone who is looking for an endurance bike not liking the SL4 Roubaix.
On my Emonda I set the saddle flat and cranked it down. So far so good but I totally agree especially from a "micro" adjustment sense...... the design sucks.

jwalther

Posted this in the general Trek picture post, but worth a repeat here. 62cm SL6.

cruc1a7

A lot of nice bikes here. My daily for now after cleaned:

GlennR

Yours is one of them.

SundayNiagara

The one thing I've noticed since the Emonda line first came out, is there doesn't seem to be any bottom bracket problems. Is this the case?

GlennR

I have about 5000 miles on my SLR and no problem of any kind.

WalksOn2Wheels

It is annoying that they don't specify on the website that there are two seatmast lengths, nor do they specify what comes on which bike. For future reference for anyone reading this thread, 58's and up come with the longer seatmast and 56's down come with the shorter seatmast.

Unfortunately, they do the same thing with Project One bikes. There is not an option on the website to spec stem length, etc. The dealer can perhaps specify, but I never processed a Project One order when I worked for a Trek Dealer. However, a good dealer will usually take the hit for you and just grab the long one off the 58 and put it on your 54 because he knows that eventually it will work itself out. Someone will want the 58 set up with the saddle and bars nearly level, etc. (Edit: I do remember when I bought my 56 Domane, the manager said he had a longer seatpost that came on a P1 bike that he swapped for a shorter post, so I didn't have to order an extra one. This is an example of a smart shop that takes care of customers because the know it will work itself out in the long run.)

I'm pretty sure we talked about this in another thread, but it's just as infinitely adjustable as a two bolt design, and has never, ever once slipped one me in the miles I've put in on the Domane so far. I also never had a customer complain. Torque it to the proper spec and it's solid. I've even undone it several times to swap saddles and never had it slip after re-torquing it.

I find the pressfit BB's designed to work with a "standard" (Shimano 24mm spindle) road crank generally hold up much better than the BB30 bikes seem to. Pressfit isn't the culprit as much as BB30 cranks tend to be widely variable in how they install as most use wavy washers as bearing preload, etc. which to me seems to give the bearings more room to come out of whack. With Trek, most of their mid-to-high level bikes feature Shimano cranks and Trek's own pressfit design, so you tend to have a lot less issues with creaking. The installation of a Shimano Hollowtech crankset sets your preload and then it's about as constant as a wheel bearing with no play. That said, I don't think BB30 is really as bad as people make it out to be, either. I have two Treks with pressfit BB's and Shimano cranks and both have been perfect from day one. I thought the Emonda was having issues, but it turns out it was a loose rear skewer making all the noise.

GlennR

When I spec'd my Project One I worked with the dealer to get all the correct parts for my fit. Which included a 170mm seat mast, 90mm stem, 42cm bars and 172.5mm crank.

If you're spending that much you better get a custom fit.

garysol1 

Just returned from my second ride on my SLR and the first group ride of the season with the Monday Night hammer group. All I can say is this bike feels like I am cheating. The more I ride the Emonda the more I appreciate the light weight of the bike, the efficiency and maybe most importantly the comfort. Very very impressive.

GlennR

Agreed.

garysol1 

Have I mentioned how much I freakin love this bike?

SundayNiagara

My SL5 is on order & should be in on Friday and I'll (hopefully) have it Saturday. Pix to follow.

garysol1 

Looking forward to seeing it. Any questions that we can help with just holla...

SundayNiagara

Thanks.