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Why are snobs against seatbags, frame bags, and/or handlebar bags?

Old 10-31-14, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
Saddle bags are the truck nuts of road cycling.
How so?
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Old 10-31-14, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by krobinson103 View Post
I ride 200km plus at night in the middle of nowhere most weekends. There is no one who could help me. I carry two spare tubes, a mulitool with a chain breaker, spare master link, three tire levers, a small tube of lube, 4 zipties, a roll of electical tape, and small pocket knife. On top of that I have two 300 lumen flashlights on the bars, a Garmin, a lock around my waist, a 100 lumen intense tail light (usb) and an aaa powered backup. I carry 3 sets of spare batteries for my front lights as I need them all night. Spares for the mp3 player and small speaker I have to keep myself company, and also the rear lights. I have a solar panel for especially long trips and two chargers that can connect to it. One for liion batteries and one for aa/aaa either can function as a stand alone phone or gadget charger. I keep an extra set of liion batteries to charge the phone, speaker, or rear light. I take a small wall wart dual usb charger for camping trips with power available as its faster. Run hyrdos so I only carry one spare gear cable.

On the rack I have a topbag with fold out panniers. I keep my charging kit, food, some spare layers, a small towel, any extra water I might want for the ride. Does it weigh a lot? For sure. Am I ever stuck? Nope. It would take a frame, hub, or massive spoke failure to stop me from getting where I want to go. Add a tent, and money to restock I can be off the grid for days. Just the way I like it.

Right there with you. Sometimes I find a nice spot that just needs for me to spend the night. I like having the option.

I like to ride slow and take it all in. Some days I start off on a ride to nowhere and find as dusk starts to set in I have gone 100+ miles and the road is still calling to me. Exploring the side roads, the "blue lines", keeps me out for "just one more day".

I do not look down on those with "the need for speed" that must be in the right outfit and race against the clock. There is room for all of us on the road. Or should I say a road for all of us. I just prefer the road less traveled.



My riding buddy. She is happy to travel the same road I do.
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Old 10-31-14, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cue View Post
I see some bikes here don't even have a saddle bag. And the posters say they put their tools in their back pockets. Yeah, I got pockets too, but I much rather have my bike carrying the stuff than on myself.

For example, my seatbag carries the tools, tubes, and patches. My handlebar bag carries the riding essentials such as wind breakers, warmers, gloves for when it's cold. My back pocket is for the keys, cash, phone, and food. I'm getting some frame bags so I don't have to carry the food on long rides in my back pocket.

Each to his own but it's dumb to carry all this stuff in your back pockets so your bike can look "pro".
A lot of people don't see the need to bring emergency tire repair, extra tubes, CO2 cartridges etc. Ignore them. I guess they think someone would be happy to drop what they are doing to pick them up when they blow a tire. I even bring SRAM quick link in case I break a chain, which I have done and was really happy to have had a SRAM quick link.
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Old 10-31-14, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RickBlane View Post
Right there with you. Sometimes I find a nice spot that just needs for me to spend the night. I like having the option.

I like to ride slow and take it all in. Some days I start off on a ride to nowhere and find as dusk starts to set in I have gone 100+ miles and the road is still calling to me. Exploring the side roads, the "blue lines", keeps me out for "just one more day".

I do not look down on those with "the need for speed" that must be in the right outfit and race against the clock. There is room for all of us on the road. Or should I say a road for all of us. I just prefer the road less traveled.



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Old 10-31-14, 08:17 PM
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You don't like the way my seat bag looks? Sorry, I must have forgotten to give a damn

I will admit to color matching my bags to my frames.

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Old 10-31-14, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by coasting View Post
only an ahole would ride far from home, like say 30 miles, and not carry equipment for the most obvious breakdowns. Going well prepared requires enough stuff to need a bag and on top of that, all the personal stuff like food and clothing is plenty for the pockets. It's smply dumb to cram it all into pockets. idiotic. it is just uncomfortable.
In all my riding, I haven't needed anything except a tube and CO2/mini-pump except when I started and had a crummy bike. The seat post snapped once and the front skewer broke another time. I don't think anything in a pack could help.
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Old 10-31-14, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
...... they would rather pocket one tool kit rather than outfit each bike in their possession with multi-tools, patch kits, etc - it can add up.

So I suppose I am spearheading the d-baggery but a $50 investment for a bag and tools on a $2000 bike doesnt seem too extreme.

but hey it takes all types to make the world go around.
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Really?
I ride with guys that speed along at 45kmh with seat bags.
So I put one on!
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Originally Posted by ricohman View Post
Really?
I ride with guys that speed along at 45kmh with seat bags.
So I put one on!
That's where they keep the motor.
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Old 10-31-14, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GravelMN View Post
You don't like the way my seat bag looks? Sorry, I must have forgotten to give a damn

I will admit to color matching my bags to my frames.
Nobody cares about your bags.

Originally Posted by catonec View Post
So I suppose I am spearheading the d-baggery but a $50 investment for a bag and tools on a $2000 bike doesnt seem too extreme.

but hey it takes all types to make the world go around.
I spent more than $2K on my bike and usually don't feel compelled to use a saddle, bar or other type of bag

Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
In all my riding, I haven't needed anything except a tube and CO2/mini-pump except when I started and had a crummy bike. The seat post snapped once and the front skewer broke another time. I don't think anything in a pack could help.
Two words: Duct tape.
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A good rule of thumb is that the larger the bag, the more the guy rides. If there's no bag at all, it's safe to assume that the guy rides about thirty miles a week, all on Sundays, and never more than five miles from the nearest Starbucks.
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I like my small saddle bag and medium TT bag. werks gud!!...at least it fits everything I need....havent tried it yet
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Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
....I spent more than $2K on my bike and usually don't feel compelled to use a saddle, bar or other type of bag......
You are definitely much cooler than me.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed View Post
I spent more than $2K on my bike and usually don't feel compelled to use a saddle, bar or other type of bag
There was a guy who had a flat on a fancy tarmac. I offered him a patch because it was a LITTLE hole and he said no because he could not stand to think his expensive bike was riding on a patched tire.

I asked him if he had an extra tube

He said "does it look like it? Do you have one?"

I said yes

He happily said "can I have it?"

And I said no, clipped in and rode off.

I am all for helping bikers who need it, but only when they are accepting. If his tire had a gaping hole, I would have given him a tube, no problem.

And no he did not have a saddle bag
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Originally Posted by Six jours View Post
A good rule of thumb is that the larger the bag, the more the guy rides. If there's no bag at all, it's safe to assume that the guy rides about thirty miles a week, all on Sundays, and never more than five miles from the nearest Starbucks.
What an absolute load of crap. I've dropped to 130 miles a week since the weather went to ****, and you won't find a single bag anywhere on my bike, nor even a pocket full of ****. I carry a skinny lever, a Park patch thingy, and a Lyzene.
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and a Lyzene.
What's Lyzene? Cough syrup?
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I don't feel like I need to carry a lot of items when I ride. I change my tires regularly and do the routine maintenance required. I also live in an area with an abundance of bike ahops. I broke a bottom bracket spindle on a ride. I rode about 4 miles to a bike shop and got it replaced while I waited. Broke a saddle on a ride 20 minutes to a bike shop, new saddle and back on the road. There are three bike shops within 5 miles of me, A trek store, a Performance, and a high end boutique bike shop.
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Why? Cause we're snobs silly.
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the 41 keeps on delivering!
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Originally Posted by PaulRivers View Post
Roadies want to look like the pro's. The pros don't have any bags (because they have an entire support vehicle following them). Thus it's "uncool" to have bags.
Pro cyclists also train when they don't have a support vehicle following them, like when they're at home or at their home-away-from-home during the season. They commonly carry their spare tubes and such in a seat bag, and it's not unusual to see a frame-mounted mini-pump on their training bike. This causes fits of the vapors on the Velominati site.

I'm cool enough that I don't have to worry about looking cool.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets View Post
What's Lyzene? Cough syrup?
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I get wearing the 'right' kit to be cool. I get buying nice bikes. I don't get not carrying basic spares. A tube, tire levers, and a multitooll are hardly heavy. If you don't want a pump you can use co2 - again hardly huge. Would you drive your car without a spare wheel or a basic tool kit?
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Originally Posted by krobinson103 View Post
I get wearing the 'right' kit to be cool. I get buying nice bikes. I don't get not carrying basic spares. A tube, tire levers, and a multitooll are hardly heavy. If you don't want a pump you can use co2 - again hardly huge. Would you drive your car without a spare wheel or a basic tool kit?
It's not clear whether you are for bags on the bike or not. You are right about the need to carry basics. Remember that lots of "no bag" folks have posted about how they DO carry all that stuff, but in a back pocket pack. Personally I carry two tubes, 3 CO2 carts, the CO2 inflator, pre-glued patches, Allen wrenches, compact standard and Phillips driver combo, tire levers, and spoke wrench. I have never needed anything related to chain maintenance and don't bother with that. All fits nicely in an airline amenities pouch and in my back jersey middle pocket. Wallet on the right, phone on the left. I buy something to eat if I need it. One kit goes on any bike I am riding. Done and done.
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M.y answer would be ' it depends'. On short 2 hour ride on a roadbike I don't carry much and I'm likely to be wearing a cycling Jersey. I do prefer on touring or utility bikes to have a tool kit in a bag (saddle/triangle depends on the bikes specs) on each bike. Not expensive and you never forgot to bring it.
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