Why are snobs against seatbags, frame bags, and/or handlebar bags?
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so thats an interesting statement. I can understand not using a bike computer/gps but a cell phone is not allowed because the battery can fail. Seems pretty silly to me considering the advancements in lithium ion cells. What about lights? Do you not use a rear blinking light or a headlight? Quite a limiting "rule"
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They're not really necessary. I keep a CO2 inflator, spare cartridge, spare tube, chain breaker, quick link, Rema patch kit, and 2 levers all in a small zip up case meant for point and shoot digital cameras. The whole thing is maybe the size of my fist. I ride more than one bike, and changing bags back and forth all the time is a hassle I don't want to deal with. That goes in my middle pocket, wallet/phone in the left, and bars/gels in the right. Never even know they're there.
Just because you have to carry stuff with you doesn't mean that it has to be in a bag.
Just because you have to carry stuff with you doesn't mean that it has to be in a bag.
I carry my cell phone, id, and a little cash in my jersey pockets, and thats it. I would hate to have my chain tool or allen keys dig into my spine if I was ever in an accident.
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Side-stepping the d-baggery and providing another explanation for why some prefer one method or the other -
Some like to leave a small bag attached with the supplies necessary to address the common issues. Reasons for this approach include: 1) freeing up jersey pocket space - this allows the pockets to accommodate stuff like food/snacks on longer rides or for a place to stash rolled-up arm warmers/wind vests/etc on rides where you'll see varying conditions 2) they know that if their supplies aren't attached to their bike, they'll eventually forget to bring their tools and will inevitably regret it when they flat 30 miles from home.
Some like to go bagless because: 1) they may find bags an unacceptable aesthetic compromise 2) they would rather pocket one tool kit rather than outfit each bike in their possession with multi-tools, patch kits, etc - it can add up.
Some like to leave a small bag attached with the supplies necessary to address the common issues. Reasons for this approach include: 1) freeing up jersey pocket space - this allows the pockets to accommodate stuff like food/snacks on longer rides or for a place to stash rolled-up arm warmers/wind vests/etc on rides where you'll see varying conditions 2) they know that if their supplies aren't attached to their bike, they'll eventually forget to bring their tools and will inevitably regret it when they flat 30 miles from home.
Some like to go bagless because: 1) they may find bags an unacceptable aesthetic compromise 2) they would rather pocket one tool kit rather than outfit each bike in their possession with multi-tools, patch kits, etc - it can add up.
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I carry enough for 2 flats (lowest common denominator is 2 CO2 carts, but I do have a small Rema patch kit and a Presta/Schrader adaptor), and with a chain breaker and quick link I can snap a chain a couple times and get away with it but what are the odds of that? If I flat 3 times in a ride I'm grabbing my phone. Most other stuff (not all) is probably going to end your ride anyway. This isn't some apocalypse where the lights are out and you'll have to shoot your way back to your house and stash of canned goods. I've had 1 flat in the last 7 years and that was about a block from my house. I took my shoes off and walked back home to change it.
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so thats an interesting statement. I can understand not using a bike computer/gps but a cell phone is not allowed because the battery can fail. Seems pretty silly to me considering the advancements in lithium ion cells. What about lights? Do you not use a rear blinking light or a headlight? Quite a limiting "rule"
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The problem with most bags is they do not look good or don't go with the bike. Do a little color co-ordination and properly mount them and they will make your bike look better!
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only an ahole would ride far from home, like say 30 miles, and not carry equipment for the most obvious breakdowns. Going well prepared requires enough stuff to need a bag and on top of that, all the personal stuff like food and clothing is plenty for the pockets. It's smply dumb to cram it all into pockets. idiotic. it is just uncomfortable.
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I can not think of a more useless waste of web space than this debate. Some where a porn site had to upload one less video today because of this. I hope you guys are happy.
Honestly who cares how other people carry thier stuff, as long as it's not in a hollowed out baby.
Honestly who cares how other people carry thier stuff, as long as it's not in a hollowed out baby.
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Why do you care?
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only an ahole would ride far from home, like say 30 miles, and not carry equipment for the most obvious breakdowns. Going well prepared requires enough stuff to need a bag and on top of that, all the personal stuff like food and clothing is plenty for the pockets. It's smply dumb to cram it all into pockets. idiotic. it is just uncomfortable.
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Responding to a person who is pointlessly complaining that a thread topic is useless is, in my estimation, a greater waste of "web space" than the complainer's post which in turn, by furthering the useless topic and encouraging pointless responses to the useless thread, is a greater waste than the useless thread itself.
Being verbose and redundant in formulating the tedious response to aforementioned complaints about the uselessness of a thread topic exacerbates the waste inherent in posting the said response in the first place . It's a good thing we don't care that much about "wasted web space".
Being verbose and redundant in formulating the tedious response to aforementioned complaints about the uselessness of a thread topic exacerbates the waste inherent in posting the said response in the first place . It's a good thing we don't care that much about "wasted web space".
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Responding to a person who is pointlessly complaining that a thread topic is useless is, in my estimation, a greater waste of "web space" than the complainer's post which in turn, by furthering the useless topic and encouraging pointless responses to the useless thread, is a greater waste than the useless thread itself.
Being verbose and redundant in formulating the tedious response to aforementioned complaints about the uselessness of a thread topic exacerbates the waste inherent in posting the said response in the first place . It's a good thing we don't care that much about "wasted web space".
Being verbose and redundant in formulating the tedious response to aforementioned complaints about the uselessness of a thread topic exacerbates the waste inherent in posting the said response in the first place . It's a good thing we don't care that much about "wasted web space".
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Is that the punch line to one of those ridiculous jokes like, "The beer that made Mel Famey walk us." Or "People who live in grass houses shouldn't stow thrones."
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If one would like to hear more on this subject and can't wait until next week for the new thread: Lovely Bicycle!: How Much to Carry on a Ride?
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Ultralight bicycle touring
As for me, pump goes next to waterbottle on downtube, saddlebag holds a tube, tire levers, allen wrenches, patch kit, keys. Jersey pockets hold food, cue sheets/maps, sometimes my camera, and a cellphone. When rides start cold and end warm, I stuff my arm and leg warmers into the pockets. When it's very hot and the route is very rural, a third water bottle is carried in the middle pocket.
And then there's this guy I met while out on a ride:
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Ultralight bicycle touring
As for me, pump goes next to waterbottle on downtube, saddlebag holds a tube, tire levers, allen wrenches, patch kit, keys. Jersey pockets hold food, cue sheets/maps, sometimes my camera, and a cellphone. When rides start cold and end warm, I stuff my arm and leg warmers into the pockets. When it's very hot and the route is very rural, a third water bottle is carried in the middle pocket.
And then there's this guy I met while out on a ride:
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Hey! Are you active enough on the bike again to warren such comments? <snarky grin>
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Roadies want to look like the pro's. The pros don't have any bags (because they have an entire support vehicle following them). Thus it's "uncool" to have bags.
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Might as well lock this one up.
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Saddle bags are the truck nuts of road cycling.