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You can't wear underwear under your bib shorts......

Old 11-10-14, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wallrat
Do whatever works for you. If you can ride 100 miles in jeans or corduroy, go for it.
It's not the point. I didn't do 100 miles in jeans, but I did more than 100 km, no problem. But wearing cycling shorts would've been more comfortable.
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Old 11-10-14, 08:57 PM
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Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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Originally Posted by bbattle
Yes, otherwise known as going commando.

Many years ago, the Underwear Nazi roamed these parts. He'd set you straight real quick. See post #7 below

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...ur-shorts.html
Absolutely! We need a major dose of his humor, what with these younger riders growing up with no guidance in these areas.
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Old 11-10-14, 09:10 PM
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No one has mentioned tne obvious problem with tightie whiteys under bibs...visible panty lines. Way not cool on a dude. I say go with the thong if you need a bit more support than th bibs provide.
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Old 11-10-14, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
All wrong. The underwear are the fabric you DON'T want rubbing on you. The chamois is made for that purpose, and with some lubricant it is innocuous. As for retention, the underwear are not nearly as retentive (I don't mean anal-retentive all you arm-chair psychologists.) as the compressive cycling shorts. Give it up. Go commando or go home.
Actually, with proper fitting tighty whities, they act as the bandaid in the "taped nipple" analogy. They do not move against your bare skin. The underwear slide against the bike shorts insulating your nether regions from the event friction. (like wearing double-socks in basketball. Inner pair & outer pair eliminate the blisters)

Also in the case of tighty whities, the retention factor is significantly more precise with an underwear cuff (TW's) that literally end at the place that the shorts are trying their best to mimic. (albeit without a seam)
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Old 11-10-14, 10:00 PM
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Good God, people!
This is the 41, not commuting or C&A.
Wear the kit. Wear it as it was designed to be worn.
Wear it with pride.
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Originally Posted by loimpact
Actually, with proper fitting tighty whities, they act as the bandaid in the "taped nipple" analogy. They do not move against your bare skin. The underwear slide against the bike shorts insulating your nether regions from the event friction. (like wearing double-socks in basketball. Inner pair & outer pair eliminate the blisters)

Also in the case of tighty whities, the retention factor is significantly more precise with an underwear cuff (TW's) that literally end at the place that the shorts are trying their best to mimic. (albeit without a seam)
Yes, of course. You've discovered something that the entire cycling industry has failed to notice. I'm sure the world will soon adapt your enlightened solution.
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Old 11-10-14, 10:13 PM
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Main issue for me would be crotch rot. I have a hard enough time avoiding it. With cotton underwear soaking sweat I can't imagine.
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Old 11-10-14, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by loimpact
Actually, with proper fitting tighty whities, they act as the bandaid in the "taped nipple" analogy. They do not move against your bare skin. The underwear slide against the bike shorts insulating your nether regions from the event friction. (like wearing double-socks in basketball. Inner pair & outer pair eliminate the blisters)

Also in the case of tighty whities, the retention factor is significantly more precise with an underwear cuff (TW's) that literally end at the place that the shorts are trying their best to mimic. (albeit without a seam)
Sounds to me like your bibs don't fit properly. They shouldn't be able to slide against your skin and if your junk isn't supported either your man bits are tiny or your bibs are too big.

I'd bet that some bibs at least 2 sizes smaller than whatever you have now would make a world of difference. They're supposed to be tight.
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Old 11-10-14, 11:27 PM
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Well fitted boxers with seams in the right places and it makes no difference with or without. Done 400km with, 300km without.... identical.
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Old 11-10-14, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlyAlfaRomeo
Sounds to me like your bibs don't fit properly. They shouldn't be able to slide against your skin and if your junk isn't supported either your man bits are tiny or your bibs are too big.

I'd bet that some bibs at least 2 sizes smaller than whatever you have now would make a world of difference. They're supposed to be tight.
I certainly understand they aren't supposed to slide against your skin but if they truly never do, then why does anybody make chamois cream?

And remember that tighty whities cuff *alongside* your junk. Bib shorts cuff around your thighs.

So unless your junk hangs so horribly low that you need to pin them between your bib shorts & your thighs (ouch), I think it's fair to say TW's (not boxers or those new-fangled brief-shorts) envelope the man bits just a smidge better than bike shorts.

And at 6'2", 195lbs I think my "L" shorts are workin' just fine.
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Old 11-10-14, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by loimpact
Precisely! I can't see how it would really help but I'm open to the idea. (Runners will recall that anything over about 5 miles are worth patching the nipples. Why? Because nipples rubbing up against nylon after a while = bad!!)
Very few runners need to tape nipples now. That used to happen to some people, mostly due to cotton shirts soaked with sweat. The extra weight of the material combined with salt rubbed nipples. But with synthetic fabric now, irritation is rare.
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Old 11-11-14, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
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Very few runners need to tape nipples now. That used to happen to some people, mostly due to cotton shirts soaked with sweat. The extra weight of the material combined with salt rubbed nipples. But with synthetic fabric now, irritation is rare.
That is incorrect. In fact, a lot of the newer running jerseys with their "tech/wicking/breathable/bull*****" is really just polyester. Polyester can double as sandpaper when not used in clothing. (Nike has some of the nicest but they'll still getcha eventually)

One of the worst bloody nipple episodes I had (because I hadn't expected it) was about 5K into a 10K in the rain. Shirt clings to skin (including nipples), running action proceeds to sand away the nips and.....pow! (Only 1 actually bled, but both were raw as a sea-salted canker sore.
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Had a badly fitted set of bike shorts that were close to wearing out. Rode a 200km brevet and when I got home I was almost skinless in places. You really want to avoid sandpapering your skin off!
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Old 11-11-14, 12:29 AM
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I have never tried wearing anything underneath my padded shorts, I feel just fine bare as is.
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Originally Posted by loimpact
I certainly understand they aren't supposed to slide against your skin but if they truly never do, then why does anybody make chamois cream?

And remember that tighty whities cuff *alongside* your junk. Bib shorts cuff around your thighs.

So unless your junk hangs so horribly low that you need to pin them between your bib shorts & your thighs (ouch), I think it's fair to say TW's (not boxers or those new-fangled brief-shorts) envelope the man bits just a smidge better than bike shorts.

And at 6'2", 195lbs I think my "L" shorts are workin' just fine.
For me the chamois cream goes in places where skin rubs against skin. Pretty much the same place where the hem on a pair of briefs would be. I can't imagine adding a stitched wad of wet cotton there but to each their own.

I do find the fact that you think junk can hang or move around inside cycling shorts a bit telling. There shouldn't be enough room in the front for your meat and two veg to move around, either there's something about the shape of your body or the shape of your shorts that's a little out of the norm.

I put my bibs on, arrange the boys where I know they'll be comfortable and that's the end of that, there's no where for em to go. Set it and forget it.

If wearing briefs is what works then power to you but you seem convinced that everyone else is doing it wrong based on your sample of one.
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Originally Posted by loimpact
So for anybody else who gets Bicycling magazine, there's a page in there of Q & A stuff & I noticed one was, "Why can't I wear underwear under my riding shorts?" And the answer part goes on to say definitively that you simply can't to avoid saddle sores, chaffing, etc.

I was like....WTF? I've been wearing my tighty whities under my bib shorts for as long as I've been riding. (Plus, bare @$$ junk up against a bunch of nylon & spandex? )

I admit I'm probably a bit naive in the matter as it pertains to cycling but in my running career folks used to say the same crap about running shorts, yet I've worn my tighty whities every run for 6 years running, in everything from 5K up to Half Marathon distance right up to this very day and I've never regretted the decision.

What say ye?
Your first mistake is that grown men should not be wearing tighty whiteys.
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Originally Posted by loimpact
Precisely! I can't see how it would really help but I'm open to the idea. (Runners will recall that anything over about 5 miles are worth patching the nipples. Why? Because nipples rubbing up against nylon after a while = bad!!)

So why is it ok with bike shorts?

Why not a thin layer between your most sensitive area and layers of nylon? (Remember, that blue crap ISN'T chamois. The chamois is sandwiched underneath)

Besides, the underwear will certainly better retain a guy's "junk" than some bike shorts that may or may not fit your anatomy as well as your underwear do, no?

(shrug)
Unfortunately you are wrong. The blue pad in the crotch of your shorts/bibs is the chamois. But it's not actually chamois. That term refers to the days when there was real chamois(leather) in shorts
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Originally Posted by loimpact
Actually, with proper fitting tighty whities, they act as the bandaid in the "taped nipple" analogy. They do not move against your bare skin. The underwear slide against the bike shorts insulating your nether regions from the event friction. (like wearing double-socks in basketball. Inner pair & outer pair eliminate the blisters)

Also in the case of tighty whities, the retention factor is significantly more precise with an underwear cuff (TW's) that literally end at the place that the shorts are trying their best to mimic. (albeit without a seam)
This sounds like something timtak would post.

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Originally Posted by DOS
No one has mentioned tne obvious problem with tightie whiteys under bibs...visible panty lines. Way not cool on a dude. I say go with the thong if you need a bit more support than th bibs provide.
I think the "panty lines" look way cleaner under riding shorts than jock straps showing through the Collegiate/NFL uniforms, but I'm not going to tell them that. I'll keep wearing the tightie "colored" under mine for now.
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This seems to be the sport where wearing underwear can really kill someone's reputation. You can bounce back from PED use but deny wearing tighty whities under your shorts all the way to the grave.
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Originally Posted by climberguy
I wear Jockey sport briefs. Stretchy, wicking, compressive, no seams in the seat, and definitely not cotton. They work fine under my bib shorts or tights.
This. No seams, no cotton.
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Yes, of course. You've discovered something that the entire cycling industry has failed to notice. I'm sure the world will soon adapt your enlightened solution.
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At my age there's enough difficulty in getting the old boy out to pee wearing bibs. I'm sure not going to add to the difficulty with another layer of clothing.
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I think of my riding shorts and bibs as underwear. I'm just not wearing any pants when I ride.
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