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You can't wear underwear under your bib shorts......

Old 11-11-14, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlyAlfaRomeo View Post
but you seem convinced that everyone else is doing it wrong based on your sample of one.
Actually, I don't. That notion came about somewhere on the first page. I'll say again......this is *against* the Bicycling article saying that you *can't* wear underwear under your shorts. I'm just saying, "Why not?" If it works, it works. There is no reason someone *can't* wear them.

Originally Posted by bruin11 View Post
Unfortunately you are wrong. The blue pad in the crotch of your shorts/bibs is the chamois. But it's not actually chamois. That term refers to the days when there was real chamois(leather) in shorts
I stand corrected! I thought for sure at least *some* shorts still had real chamois in them. But it appears (at least from a brief search) that they're all simply foam, gel or some sandwich of both. And, yes, I'm well aware the blue paneling is absolutely not chamois, having used real and/or synthetic chamois for drying my cars for the last 30 years.

(Of course this is where someone will chime in that they still get their real chamois skin shorts from chamoisbibshorts.com and they're readily available every day)
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If underwear was supposed to be worn under your riding shorts/bibs then you would see the likes of those companies (sugoi, assos etc) making "underwear".

But whatever works for you. Cotton kills..
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Old 11-11-14, 09:29 AM
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I would venture to say that the vast majority of the population of Earth, both male and female, never wear either underwear or cycling shorts during their entire lives. Who does OP think he is wearing both. What a waste of resources.
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Originally Posted by 02Giant View Post
Hopefully it isn't the kitchen sink...that would be disgusting.
Not if you clean your sink afterwards. Washing some food items in your kitchen sink can leave a lot worse things than washing your shorts.
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Old 11-11-14, 09:54 AM
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Wear the underwear over your shorts. Duh...
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OK for some other activities, but not for cycling.

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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Not if you clean your sink afterwards. Washing some food items in your kitchen sink can leave a lot worse things than washing your shorts.
That and the fact that the kitchen sink is a direct connection to the sanitary sewer, unless it is a commercial kitchen sink which has a physical air gap separation from the sanitary waste of a minimum of 2x the pipe size diameter of the outlet.
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Originally Posted by loimpact View Post
That is incorrect. In fact, a lot of the newer running jerseys with their "tech/wicking/breathable/bull*****" is really just polyester. Polyester can double as sandpaper when not used in clothing. (Nike has some of the nicest but they'll still getcha eventually)

One of the worst bloody nipple episodes I had (because I hadn't expected it) was about 5K into a 10K in the rain. Shirt clings to skin (including nipples), running action proceeds to sand away the nips and.....pow! (Only 1 actually bled, but both were raw as a sea-salted canker sore.
Wow. You must have extremely sensitive skin and nipples! You got bloody nipples after 5K? Incredible.

I am not incorrect. Jerseys are made to wick moisture away or at least ones really intended for running. A good quality jersey stays dry except in the most extreme conditions. One thing I know is running. My milage probably is 50,000.
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Old 11-11-14, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by WarrenR View Post
This. No seams, no cotton.
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Why is it that when people find out they're doing something stupid, they start a thread trying to defend doing it. First people can't wear cycling shorts alone without being covered up and now they can't be naked under their shorts.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
Wow. You must have extremely sensitive skin and nipples! You got bloody nipples after 5K? Incredible.

I am not incorrect. Jerseys are made to wick moisture away or at least ones really intended for running. A good quality jersey stays dry except in the most extreme conditions. One thing I know is running. My milage probably is 50,000.
Did you read my post? In the rain!! Rain + mesh fibered polyester equals raw nipples. I, along with hundreds of others were in the same boat.

In dry conditions, I'm good for about 8 miles, then beyond that it's tape. (raw nipples ain't worth any ego trip)

My mileage is probably half your 50,000, but needless to say, enough to know what I'm talking about. Nike drifit & some other makers weave stuff that is finely knit & quite soft, but polyester is polyester. It is not skin friendly no matter how hard we try to weave it (or profess it) to be. These "tech" fabrics are not something new. Too many folks get duped into thinking it is.

If you can get thru a sub 1:45 half marathon without sweating..(and I don't care what you're wearing, the sweat is gonna stay)...mad respect to you. I cannot!
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Originally Posted by therhodeo View Post
Why is it that when people find out they're doing something stupid, they start a thread trying to defend doing it. First people can't wear cycling shorts alone without being covered up and now they can't be naked under their shorts.
Stupid? How about "different"?

And you need to read a few posts up to understand the thread.

In fact, here in the 41, I actually changed the original title cuz I thought for sure the contrarian forces that belie the attendance here would've chimed in with the "Nobody tells me what I *can't* do!"

Instead, (except for a few who obviously speak their mind freely & don't care what the 41 elite opinions are) it's like lambs to the slaughter around here. "Nope, can't open my mind to the possibility of doing it any other way." (Maybe that's why all Freds look like.....well.....Freds!)
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Originally Posted by loimpact View Post
Actually, I don't. That notion came about somewhere on the first page. I'll say again......this is *against* the Bicycling article saying that you *can't* wear underwear under your shorts. I'm just saying, "Why not?" If it works, it works. There is no reason someone *can't* wear them.
Fair enough.
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Why is it that when people find out they're doing something stupid, they start a thread trying to defend doing it. First people can't wear cycling shorts alone without being covered up and now they can't be naked under their shorts.
Three garments instead of just the one you need.
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No reason to not wear more stuff Over your bike bibs.. polar fleece tights and rain gear .. its getting to be that time of year..
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Originally Posted by loimpact View Post
Actually, I don't. That notion came about somewhere on the first page. I'll say again......this is *against* the Bicycling article saying that you *can't* wear underwear under your shorts. I'm just saying, "Why not?" If it works, it works. There is no reason someone *can't* wear them.



I stand corrected! I thought for sure at least *some* shorts still had real chamois in them. But it appears (at least from a brief search) that they're all simply foam, gel or some sandwich of both. And, yes, I'm well aware the blue paneling is absolutely not chamois, having used real and/or synthetic chamois for drying my cars for the last 30 years.

(Of course this is where someone will chime in that they still get their real chamois skin shorts from chamoisbibshorts.com and they're readily available every day)
Coincidentally, most riders stop reading Bicycling Magazine about the time the figure out the benefits of a proper pair of bibs, without cotton underwear of course.
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Originally Posted by CharlyAlfaRomeo View Post
Fair enough.
Props for respectful reply!!

FWIW, I'm gonna go commando tonight on a crit practice ride that gets pretty intense! Because there's little to no standing on this ride, it'll be a great test as the buns start to get pretty hot & I'd be curious to see if commando relieves any of that. 45 minutes of 95% effort oughtta give some decent feedback!

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"Chaffing"? "Schafing"? Really? Spelling?
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Originally Posted by loimpact View Post
Props for respectful reply!!

FWIW, I'm gonna go commando tonight on a crit practice ride that gets pretty intense! Because there's little to no standing on this ride, it'll be a great test as the buns start to get pretty hot & I'd be curious to see if commando relieves any of that. 45 minutes of 95% effort oughtta give some decent feedback!

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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Coincidentally, most riders stop reading Bicycling Magazine about the time the figure out the benefits of a proper pair of bibs, without cotton underwear of course.
Straps go over my jersey right?
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Originally Posted by loimpact View Post
Stupid? How about "different"?

And you need to read a few posts up to understand the thread.

In fact, here in the 41, I actually changed the original title cuz I thought for sure the contrarian forces that belie the attendance here would've chimed in with the "Nobody tells me what I *can't* do!"

Instead, (except for a few who obviously speak their mind freely & don't care what the 41 elite opinions are) it's like lambs to the slaughter around here. "Nope, can't open my mind to the possibility of doing it any other way." (Maybe that's why all Freds look like.....well.....Freds!)
"Another way" is the wrong/stupid way. Do you ever go running in your Levi's?
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I'm curious. Those of you who wear underwear under their bib shorts, how often do you wash the underwear?
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Originally Posted by bruin11 View Post
Unfortunately you are wrong. The blue pad in the crotch of your shorts/bibs is the chamois. But it's not actually chamois. That term refers to the days when there was real chamois(leather) in shorts
In old books you can read about people wearing chamois money belts: leather belts with pockets that you could use to carry large quantities of money next to your skin, without worrying (much) about pickpockets.

It's pretty clear that the stuff that goes into crotch pads is too fragile for these purposes because it's not leather or even imitation leather, it's probably just something cotton-based with a good helping of petroleum derived fibers.

BTW:

When cycling chamois were actually made of chamois leather, chamois cream was used to keep the inside of the cycling shorts supple and moist. The chamois leather would dry out over time and, when caked with sweat, the chamois would become as hard as a board — not particularly comfortable if you’re planning a long day in the saddle.

But as Tristan told us, it’s questionable whether chamois cream is even needed any more.

“If you’ve got a properly designed chamois and properly designed short, you only need chamois cream on a really hot day — when you’re going to sweat a lot, which creates extra friction — or when it’s a wet day”, Tristan said. “If you’ve got a properly defined chamois, you shouldn’t, in theory, need chamois cream.”
https://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/03/wh...cling-chamois/
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Mostly just adding this for post count at this point...

But do you undies-under-shorts guys also wear underwear under your swim trunks?

Why try to buck the intended design?
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Straps go over my jersey right?
Only in a TT.

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