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Consistent attitudes concerning disk brakes and electronic shifting or not?

Old 01-02-15, 07:15 AM
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Consistent attitudes concerning disk brakes and electronic shifting or not?

Simple poll, are you pro both, con both, or split? As far as I am concerned, the poll result is what is important here, but I know you guys won't be able to resist rehashing all the details.

BTW: Pro and con are for and against the introduction and proliferation of the technologies for road bikes, respectively. Has nothing to do with you actually buying in.
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You forgot indifferent.
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You forgot indifferent.
+ 1.
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
You forgot indifferent.
I don't think so. I figured if you were indifferent, you wouldn't take the poll to begin with. Besides, as most can tell, I don't understand the concept of indifferent. What is that all about? If there is a topic, there should be an opinion.
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I'm going to say "con both", because I'm a cheapskate.
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I don't think so. I figured if you were indifferent, you wouldn't take the poll to begin with.
Most opinion polls have a choice for "don't know".
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Most opinion polls have a choice for "don't know".
Oh, make no mistake, you do know. Copping out is not allowed.

Besides what does knowing have to do with having an opinion? I mean, really?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
Oh, make no mistake, you do know. Copping out is not allowed.

Besides what does knowing have to do with having an opinion? I mean, really?
Don't know.
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Don't know.
You wish!
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
You forgot indifferent.
+2

And what is the definition of "pro" and "con" ?

Maybe I am "pro" in that I see them as "better", but "con" as not worth the money.

And what is the hassle factor with disks if you have multiple bikes & multiple wheelsets and used to easily swapping them around.
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
I'm going to say "con both", because I'm a cheapskate.
I took it more as your opinion on the technology, not if you are going to actually buy it. I'm pro both, but will definitely not own either until its something I could actually afford.
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And what is the definition of "pro" and "con" ?

Maybe I am "pro" in that I see them as "better", but "con" as not worth the money.

And what is the hassle factor with disks if you have multiple bikes & multiple wheelsets and used to easily swapping them around.
Pro and con are for and against the introduction and proliferation of the technologies for road bikes, respectively. Has nothing to do with you actually buying in.
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Pro and con are for and against the introduction and proliferation of the technologies for road bikes, respectively. Has nothing to do with you actually buying in.
Money no object: I would be pro disc brake. Mrs. rjones28's trike has discs. I would still be con electronic shifting, for the same reason I am con automatic transmissions in my cars.
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Money no object: I would be pro disc brake. Mrs. rjones28's trike has discs. I would still be con electronic shifting, for the same reason I am con automatic transmissions in my cars.
Are you kidding? You can still buy a standard transmission automobile? No, it can't be. Why would they still make those?
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You forgot indifferent.
Or do like I do. Just lie.
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I don't think so. I figured if you were indifferent, you wouldn't take the poll to begin with. Besides, as most can tell, I don't understand the concept of indifferent. What is that all about? If there is a topic, there should be an opinion.
But what about the desperately indifferent who are so hipsterly nonchalant that they feel bitterly offended enough to mention that you didn't take measures to account for their uniqueness and refusal to fit into tidy categories?

Con both here, though I can afford otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
Or do like I do. Just lie.
But then polling results would be misleading and democracy as we know it would all be a sham. We're through the looking glass here, people.



My attitude to disc brakes and electronic shifting is similar now to mobile phones in the 90s. I have no need of them in my life currently, but I do know that they will feature heavily in the future, and eventually society will move to such a direction where it's easier to have them and integrate than to not.
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Con both. The level of technology on my mechanical-shifting rim-braked road bikes is more than sufficient. Actually, that would even be true of a bike from 30 years ago. The only thing on my bikes which needs improvement, is ME!
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If I could afford a lightweight hydraulic disc brake, electronic shifting equipped bike, I would be pro.

Since I can't, I feel it should all be banned immediately
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But what about the desperately indifferent who are so hipsterly nonchalant that they feel bitterly offended enough to mention that you didn't take measures to account for their uniqueness and refusal to fit into tidy categories?
lol....perfect summation.


I'm pro electronic shifting (I changed my mind about it last year) and con disk brake.
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It's not an absolute. It depends on the circumstances whether I think one or both are worthwhile or not.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
as most can tell, I don't understand the concept of indifferent.
Obviously. And yes, we can tell.

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But what about the desperately indifferent who are so hipsterly nonchalant that they feel bitterly offended enough to mention that you didn't take measures to account for their uniqueness and refusal to fit into tidy categories?
This.
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On a road bike I see no advantage to a rear disc brake. Front brake different story, when they start making front only disc systems, where I only have to replace my fork I might be interested.
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Electric shifting is great. It worked flawless for me, but didn't have the "feel" of mechanical.
Disk brakes on the other hand are a HUGE upgrade from rim brakes. HUGE. The only drawback I've found is the drag. No matter what you do they won't free spin like rim brakes. Don't know if this makes any "real world" difference as my disk bike is heavier and geared different than my Tarmac. I will say this though, my next Tarmac will have disk brakes.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
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And what is the definition of "pro" and "con" ?

Maybe I am "pro" in that I see them as "better", but "con" as not worth the money.

And what is the hassle factor with disks if you have multiple bikes & multiple wheelsets and used to easily swapping them around.
Okay, after reading this comment, I want to change my pro to a con.
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