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Front skewer lever on NDS? I don't get it.

Old 01-06-15, 09:34 PM
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Front skewer lever on NDS? I don't get it.

I've gotta admit that I've never understood the custom of placing the front wheel quick release skewer lever on the non-drive side of the bike. I've heard the rationale that the skewer levers then match, but that seems really trivial. Is there a better reason for it?

For me, it has always seemed more sensible and convenient to place the front lever on the drive side, and I'll explain why...

When I dismount and stand next to the bike, I do so on the NDS, for the reason of avoiding accidental chain contact and grubbing of skin and gear. Therefore, if I'm standing on the NDS, and walk my bike to, say, the car, and I want to remove my wheel, my first action is going to be reaching over to the DS with my "good" hand (that's a Scary Movie 2 reference, but I mean my right hand) and flip the brake release.

At that point, it seems to make sense to me to just continue going down the fork leg and throwing open the skewer, so that's why I put mine there. I just like having the brake release and skewer on the same side, I guess.

I realize that not all brakes have the release, and that not everyone runs motorcycle style brake orientation, and so there is just as equally valid explanation for running the lever on the NDS (brake & skewer levers match), so I guess my question is actually whether you run your front skewer lever to a particular side, or is it random, and if you do prefer a side, why?

And yes, saying custom or tradition is just fine; I'm not trying to argue or convince anyone one way is better or otherwise, I'm just curious, because it really does seem to be a durable tradition to run it NDS, but yet I can't be the only freak, can I? (That part is rhetorical; don't answer that!)
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Hey, if you like it on the drive side run it on the drive side. Flip the front wheel around while you're at it
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Tradition can be a strange thing, I have seen other bike mechanics tell customers that their QR is on the wrong side and then proceed to change it as if they're doing the customer a favor. I have the QR on the drive side of my two bikes with disc brakes (I don't want to touch the rotors, let alone hot rotors!) and I get comments about it occasionally.
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NDS. I like my skewers tight and my right hand is stronger. I straddle the front wheel to hold the bike upright and reach down with my right hand. If someone's helping me with a flat change and they're doing the wheel, it goes on the right way and my backup computer still works. Bike's more symmetrical that way, if that makes any difference.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
Bike's more symmetrical that way, if that makes any difference.
I've seen some pretty steep drop-offs on the outside of fast off-camber sweepers...I'll take symmetrical if it pays off with balance at the margins! Haha!

I guess we just get used to what we do, however, I rarely straddle the front wheel, and in fact prefer to stand to the NDS, bend over to undo the front, then turn around to do the same on the rear, where the brake release and skewer are together right there at hand again.
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Originally Posted by hairnet
Tradition can be a strange thing, I have seen other bike mechanics tell customers that their QR is on the wrong side and then proceed to change it as if they're doing the customer a favor. I have the QR on the drive side of my two bikes with disc brakes (I don't want to touch the rotors, let alone hot rotors!) and I get comments about it occasionally.
Absolutely agree; it's a strange thing to obsess over, a strange thing to think about as having a right and wrong way to do, and an odd thing to comment on about someone else's bike, but yeah, I've gotten it, too.

It makes clear sense to me in the case of discs on front, but do you then run the rear lever on the DS, too? I'm trying to think what's worse, a hot rotor or a grimy cassette and lever?!
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Originally Posted by chaadster
It makes clear sense to me in the case of discs on front, but do you then run the rear lever on the DS, too? I'm trying to think what's worse, a hot rotor or a grimy cassette and lever?!
I do on the rear too, this on a mountain bike and dirt/road bike. I don't care one way or the other for the rear because I don't use the rear brake as much and I don't remove the rear wheel as frequently as the front. I haven't paid attention if the lever gets more dirty.
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kind of funny that this topic was mentioned. we do our trainer night at the Trek Store here on tuesday nights. For some reason, I looked down at someone's bike and noticed that their QR was on the DS. I immediately looked around at every other bike in the store (20 total) and that bike was the only one.

I'm right-handed, but somewhat ambidextrous (if that makes any sense-probably not). It feels perfectly natural for me to lean over the front of my bike and open the brake with my right hand while simultaneously undoing the QR with my left hand. I suppose I never really thought about it that much.
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Most people find it easier to adjust the nut with their right hand and close the lever with their left.
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For me it's most convenient for both to be on the same side. I frequently transport my bike in the trunk of my sedan with both wheels removed. So at the end of the ride I lean my bike with DS against the rear bumper of the car and flip open both QR levers on the NDS. I then lift up the frame and the two wheels fall out and rest against the bumper while I put the frame in the trunk followed by setting the wheels on top of it (my brake release levers do not need to be opened nor do my frames have 'lawyer lips').

But I certainly wouldn't object to anyone who wants to do things differently on their own bikes.
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I have skewers with faux levers on the nut side so no one but me knows which side is the real lever.
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Originally Posted by chaadster
I've gotta admit that I've never understood the custom of placing the front wheel quick release skewer lever on the non-drive side of the bike. I've heard the rationale that the skewer levers then match, but that seems really trivial. Is there a better reason for it?

For me, it has always seemed more sensible and convenient to place the front lever on the drive side, and I'll explain why...

When I dismount and stand next to the bike, I do so on the NDS, for the reason of avoiding accidental chain contact and grubbing of skin and gear. Therefore, if I'm standing on the NDS, and walk my bike to, say, the car, and I want to remove my wheel, my first action is going to be reaching over to the DS with my "good" hand (that's a Scary Movie 2 reference, but I mean my right hand) and flip the brake release.

At that point, it seems to make sense to me to just continue going down the fork leg and throwing open the skewer, so that's why I put mine there. I just like having the brake release and skewer on the same side, I guess.

I realize that not all brakes have the release, and that not everyone runs motorcycle style brake orientation, and so there is just as equally valid explanation for running the lever on the NDS (brake & skewer levers match), so I guess my question is actually whether you run your front skewer lever to a particular side, or is it random, and if you do prefer a side, why?

And yes, saying custom or tradition is just fine; I'm not trying to argue or convince anyone one way is better or otherwise, I'm just curious, because it really does seem to be a durable tradition to run it NDS, but yet I can't be the only freak, can I? (That part is rhetorical; don't answer that!)
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If you ride a thru axle, like I do on my CX bike or any mtb, you have no choice. The skewer is always on the nds.
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Originally Posted by Ice41000
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
Most people find it easier to adjust the nut with their right hand and close the lever with their left.
I know that's true for me. I have much more dexterity in my right fingers so it's easier for me to spin the nut.
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Hmmm.... I suppose it really doesn't matter. I bought my bike in Italy, and the old Italians were kind of picky about things like the skewers, as well as letting the air out of the tires every day.

It probably isn't a bad idea to be consistent, so if your rim tire is off-center, the brakes will remain adjusted.

Another note, I always learned to orient the QR towards the rear of the bike, so you are less likely to snag on something and knock your wheel off (at least in theory).

Putting the lever on the left naturally also puts the lever on the top when pointed rearward unless you have a symmetrical lever style like weyless QRs.
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To me is six of one half dozen of the other. I put it on the NDS because I then avoid people yelling at me about violating the rules but I honestly couldn't care less.
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If you run the skewer lever on the NDS, it deflects the air flow out and around the crankset and derailleurs, thus being more aero. Go for it.
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nds = pro
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Is it tight, does it hold the wheel in place?....then it is on the correct side
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Originally Posted by chaadster
At that point, it seems to make sense to me to just continue going down the fork leg and throwing open the skewer, so that's why I put mine there. I just like having the brake release and skewer on the same side, I guess.
This argument doesn't work with forks with lawyer tabs, given that you're going to need a hand on each side of the wheel to deal with screwing/unscrewing the nut.

That said, to me, DS just looks wrong, given the almost uniform practice of putting it NDS. But do what pleases you.
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You need SOMETHING on the non-drive side! The drive-side gets all the goodies; can't you let the poor NDS have ONE lousy thing to take away the bleakness?
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