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Old 01-12-15, 06:09 PM
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There's only one realistic cycling bucket list on my horizon; wearing out my existing tires so that I can try another great road bike tire. The keyword here is to use up existing tires before trying a new one. I guess that means I have to put on a lot of miles. Not such a bad achievement. If I happen to get to some of the better biking areas that would be a bonus.

Currently using Michelin Pro 4 Service Course. If I get too many flats commuting next season I will have to call that good and move to a different tire. Hopefully that's not the case because I want to run similar tires instead of moving to "commuting" tires, potentially sacrificing ride quality.


Next up I want to try Veloflex Corsa. Because I like the sound of "Veloflex"

pdedes has been hot on schwalbe ultremo zx for a while, so they are on the list.
Schwalbe 11600123 Durano S RaceGuard
Schwalbe ONE V-Guard

hueyhoolihan recommending Vittoria Open Evo SC
Vittoria Open Corsa, "race day" tire; more fragile
Vredestein Fortezza Senso Superlites, but need to "research" more opinions...OUTED by StanSteven.

We (my boys and a friend, but not me) have some experience already on Continental GP4000's so a little lower on my list as a known quantity.
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You could always just ride through glass and metal on the road and speed up the process. Nothing like a slash in the sidewall to kill a tire. I seem to be able to do it without trying.
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As to "commuting tires" I have been very impressed with Michelin Pro4 Endurance tires. They're commuting/training tires you can race on. Tough and supple--I don't know how they do it, but they do.
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I predict you will accomplish this bucket list. In my experience tyres sometimes last 3,000 miles but more often than not, you hit **** in the road and damage them beyond repair much sooner.
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I predict you will accomplish this bucket list. In my experience tyres sometimes last 3,000 miles but more often than not, you hit **** in the road and damage them beyond repair much sooner.
Yeah. I have gone through more tires due to sidewall tears than actually wearing them all the way through, unfortunately. And it is always the expensive ones I ruin.
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Yeah. I have gone through more tires due to sidewall tears than actually wearing them all the way through, unfortunately. And it is always the expensive ones I ruin.
Yup. I probably had 500 miles on my last GP4000s, when I tore a hole in the sidewall, rendering it useless. And it cost 'almost' as much as my car tyre.
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I did wear out one pair of GP4000s but the following three pairs suffered killer sidewall cuts.
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This is beginning to sound pretty familiar - one of my boys, Tyler, sliced a little-used GP4000 but made it to the LBS and finished the ride. Blake has been riding Michelin Pro4 Endurance all last season and they are wearing very well. We just ordered 3 Michelin Pro4 25's Endurance from PBK for his girlfriend - if she doesn't want them, I'll give 'em a whirle on my commutes just because we have them. I flatted a Michelin Pro4 SC after about a dozen commutes, small glass shard, but the tire is still good.
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I'm honestly not sure I've ever truly "worn out" a tire.
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I ride them till the cords show. ~6/yr.
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I moved away from Michelin Pro3 and 4's they just did not wear long enough for me I liked the ride and grip very much.
I moved to Schwable S and Ones best move I have made durable and good puncture protection, long wearing and very soft ride as good or better than the Michelin's I will never go back to Michelin and I really do not see my self switching away from these Schwable tires they are now my choice for my needs.
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Old 01-12-15, 08:46 PM
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I moved to Schwable S and Ones best move I have made durable and good puncture protection, long wearing and very soft ride as good or better than the Michelin's
I like comparisons of one tire to the other. All things being the same, this makes the decisions a bit easier. There seems to be serveral varieties of Schwable S and Schwable One's - can you tell me exactly which tire model's you are using?
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These are the 2 tires I like and run on all my bikes including my commuting bike. If you want more protection the Durano DD and Durano Plus HS are also good choices.


Durano S HS 376
[TABLE="width: 725"]
[TR]
[TD]Model # 11600123.01
[/TD]
[TD]23-622
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[TD]700 x 23C
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[TD]RaceGuard
[/TD]
[TD]Black
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[TD]Dual
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[TD]85-145
[/TD]
[TD]225 g
[/TD]
[TD]67
[/TD]
[TD]70 kg
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[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Schwalbe ONE
[TABLE="width: 725"]
[TR]
[TD]Model # 11600514[/TD]
[TD]23-622[/TD]
[TD]700 x 23C[/TD]
[TD]V-Guard[/TD]
[TD]Black[/TD]
[TD]OneStar[/TD]
[TD]85-145[/TD]
[TD]205 g[/TD]
[TD]127[/TD]
[TD]70 kg[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

This is the Durano S HS 376


By the way prices can be found for the $35-$45 range is what I try looking for when I see them I'll pick them up I've got them for as low as $25.
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Nice looking bike, JTG. I like white bikes. When I do finally buy a new bike I think I'll go white and blue.
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Thanks like I said I really like the Schwable's I went thru 10 Michelin Pro's over the last 2 years they ride good but wear fast on the rear for me. Started to get pricey buying so many tires all the time.
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I can save you on the Vreds. They aren't worth it. About the only people that ride any Vreds do so because they are on sale. They used to be one of the best, if not the best road tire for training/racing, but no longer.
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i killed one of my GP4000Sii's on saturday and mounted a set of specialized s-works turbo tires in 700x24c. I only have a couple rides on them but I don't know if I will go back to the Conti's.
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i killed one of my GP4000Sii's on saturday and mounted a set of specialized s-works turbo tires in 700x24c. I only have a couple rides on them but I don't know if I will go back to the Conti's.
You will have to come back after a couple K miles with an update...
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I stopped worrying about it - they're consumable and if you buy them on sale, not even that expensive. I RARELY get 2k out of a rear - they get wrecked by something before I get that far. I rode Pro3 SC tires for a while - great ride, nice grip, terrible wear & puncture resistance. I switched to GP4000, which I thought was marginally better but not enough to warrant the legion of "best tire ever" threads we used to get about them. Currently, I have a mix of Michelin Pro4 SC and Endurance tires (depending on which wheels are mounted) and I agree with the poster above who says the endurance model seems to be just as nice as the SC model. I'll probably stick with those for a while. I can typically find them for about $30-35 at ribble or pbk or one of those outlets. They recently had a sale - 2 tires and 2 Michelin air stop tubes (my favorite) for $60, so I bought two.
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I can save you on the Vreds. They aren't worth it. About the only people that ride any Vreds do so because they are on sale. They used to be one of the best, if not the best road tire for training/racing, but no longer.
Going to have to disagree with you there. There was a set of crappy "special edition" fortezzas that were sold through Performance that were a low TPI version of their normal tire, and yes, they were not good. But I have about 1000 miles on a set of the Senso Superlites and I like them a lot. I was riding Vittoria Open Corsas and liked them too, but I was getting a flat about once every 2-3 rides on them. Since switching to the Vredesteins, I haven't had a flat (knock on wood), and I really like the ride quality too.
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At the moment I'm running vittoria open corsa's and while they're great tyres, they're really fragile. I flatted quite often already up to the point where I get quite nervous when I'm riding on less than perfect roads. Other than durability they're great tyres though. Before that I used Schwalbe Ultremo ZX's and Schwalbe One's. The Ultremo ZX was a great tyre, good ride quality and quite durable. I didn't notice that much difference between the Ultremo's and the One's even though I had a flat on my first ride with the one's but that's just bad luck. So for an everyday tire I think I'll stick with Schwalbe and reserve the Vittoria's for race day.

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There's Schwalbe love here I hadn't expected. And as TrojanHorse pointed out, by shopping smart tires can be pretty inexpensive.
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This test is quite a bit old, so some of the tyres are either no longer available, or have been updated.

Anyway, I'd like to eventually try all the fancy ones on the top of the list. Most race-only tyres obviously wear quicker, so I often put them on the front so I can at least feel the 'bling' under my hands

The numbers are rolling resistance in Watts

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While I'm at it.....
Conti must've really got their act together to have the new (right?) GP4000S rolling faster than Veloflex Records and Michelin Pro Lights

Michelin Pro4 Review - Slowtwitch.com
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