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bt 01-21-15 06:40 PM

Why is CAMPAGNOLO so expensive ?
 
Is it really that much better or is it a perceived value thing?

datlas 01-21-15 06:42 PM

Made in Italy.

It is good stuff. Whether it's a good value is a philosophical decision.

Pirkaus 01-21-15 06:43 PM

****
Because it is made with the finest materials, by Italian craftsman.:)

gc3 01-21-15 06:44 PM

Because pricing is art + science....the price is what the intended market will bear. If not, they're either leaving money (your's) on the table or not maximizing sales. Plus, it sounds eye-talian.

merlinextraligh 01-21-15 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Pirkaus (Post 17489164)
****
Because it is made with the finest materials, by Romanian craftsman.:)

Ftfy

evrythngsgngrn 01-21-15 06:49 PM

Campagnolo Centaur Groupset | Merlin Cycles

$589 CDN, Veloce is a currently $453 CDN, so less than the price of a new 5800 groupset. Just gets crazy expensive as you go up... oh and did anyone already say because it's Italian?

datlas 01-21-15 06:50 PM

They have two factories. One in Italy, one in Romania.

They are also a relatively small operation. Almost like a "boutique" brand.

Not saying whether the value is good or bad, that's up to you to decide.

I <3 Robots 01-21-15 07:11 PM

Buy from the UK?

whitemax 01-21-15 07:12 PM

Because PT Barnum said people would buy it.

Drew Eckhardt 01-21-15 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by bt (Post 17489156)
Is it really that much better or is it a perceived value thing?

It's not more expensive unless you decide to put your LBS owner's children through college by paying US retail price. There's a Campagnolo group at almost every Shimano (or SRAM) price point as long as you prudently shop around.

For example:
Shimano Ultegra 6800 - $607 from Ribble, 2274 grams
Campagnolo Athena Carbon - $629 from Ribble, 2400 grams

Shimano Dura Ace 9000- $1245 from Ribble, 2016 grams
Campagnolo Chorus - $1065 from ribble, 1870 grams

Campagnolo being better is subjective. Is it better to get to the next gear with a pair of thumb button shoves PUSH - release - left button push - release or two inner levers PUSH - release - push one lever - release - push - release - push - release - push - release? Is it better to hit a hood mounted brake release when you bend a rim or break a spoke and keep riding with full brakes, or open the lever at the brake perhaps loosing braking on that end?

I'd also ask if it's better to have a crank which does not look like a dead octopus, although Campagnolo has since jumped on that band wagon.

Silvercivic27 01-21-15 07:18 PM

It's expensive because it can be and people will still buy it.

also on that comparison, uh yeah, no. Compare shimano's top model with campy's top model and get back to us. Like DA vs SR...

ARPRINCE 01-21-15 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt (Post 17489238)
I'd also ask if it's better to have a crank which does not look like a dead octopus, although Campagnolo has since jumped on that band wagon.

That made me laugh.:thumb:

chaadster 01-21-15 07:27 PM

It's the best looking groupset you can put on a bike, that's for sure, and that it's a heritage Italian brand...well that's why it's expensive.

Japan is very good (arguably better), but no panache. Styling is often frankly vulgar, never supreme.

Lazyass 01-21-15 07:30 PM

Because it's the best.

BillyD 01-21-15 08:13 PM


headloss 01-21-15 08:16 PM

Personally, I think it's due to bone-headed business decisions... that said, I prefer their products for the most part.

coasting 01-21-15 08:18 PM

Because there are mugs who think it is worth it.

popeye 01-21-15 08:19 PM

Because SRAM is going out of business.

hamster 01-21-15 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt (Post 17489238)
It's not more expensive unless you decide to put your LBS owner's children through college by paying US retail price. There's a Campagnolo group at almost every Shimano (or SRAM) price point as long as you prudently shop around.

For example:
Shimano Ultegra 6800 - $607 from Ribble, 2274 grams
Campagnolo Athena Carbon - $629 from Ribble, 2400 grams

Shimano Dura Ace 9000- $1245 from Ribble, 2016 grams
Campagnolo Chorus - $1065 from ribble, 1870 grams

I'd want to look at detailed weight breakdown, particularly in case of DA9000 vs Chorus. I compared weights of shifters, FD, RD, and a compact crankset, as published by Competitive Cyclist, and in each case the DA9000 part was lighter. DA9000 was ahead by 76 g just across these parts. To have it behind by 146 g overall, either something must be very rotten somewhere else, or it is not an apples to apples comparison.

Also, the expensiveness of Campagnolo is much more pronounced in the electronic scene. Last I checked, Record EPS and Super Record EPS were both heavier and more expensive than DA9070.

Stucky 01-21-15 09:29 PM

Status/eliteness. If you're willing to pay for that...... My grandparents were from It-lee, but I'm content with my humble Dura Ah-chee.See? it's Eye-talian, too! (Like my grandmother said of the actor Ralph Bellamy: "He must be Italian! 'Bella-me' !'. :D)

StanSeven 01-21-15 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by popeye (Post 17489411)
Because SRAM is going out of business.

I think Campy is right behind. They bet the house on a new 12 speed wireless group.

Lazyass 01-21-15 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 17489643)
I think Campy is right behind. They bet the house on a new 12 speed wireless group.

No, they did not "bet the house". Silliness. They'll be around much longer than anyone who is a member here.

zonatandem 01-21-15 10:17 PM

Why is a Porschei more expensive than a Ford Fusion . . . ???

Rcrxjlb 01-21-15 10:18 PM

Bling parts, blah...

Nachoman 01-21-15 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt (Post 17489238)
For example:
Shimano Dura Ace 9000- $1245 from Ribble, 2016 grams
Campagnolo Chorus - $1065 from ribble, 1870 grams.

yeah. good example. rolls eyes.


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