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coasting 02-15-15 09:24 PM

other than the waste issue, i think this thead brings up the fear of everything risk averse paranoia in some cyclists. why not change your chain every 1000 miles? you could break a link and a hard effort standing and go down!

StanSeven 02-15-15 09:39 PM

For those that don't ride these tires, there's nothing wrong except maybe some wear. That's the way they look after miles.

rpenmanparker 02-15-15 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by cale (Post 17556451)
Well yeah. I know that racing tires don't offer the same durability, in general, as training tires but I still buy them because of how they feel. It just makes riding more expensive to buy racing tires.

You don't have to tell me.

RoadTire 02-15-15 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 17556326)
So, how was the ride?


Uhh, that's kind of a good point. We should here from the OP soon. Hopefully..... :eek:

Alias530 02-16-15 06:09 PM

Even if you pay full retail, high end clincher tires are like $50-70... you really willing to risk injury over a couple bucks? I wouldn't ride that unless you paid me, a lot.

Nachoman 02-16-15 07:16 PM

Sunday I rode on a tyre that was soooo much worse than the OP's.
But today I switched it out.

hueyhoolihan 02-16-15 07:45 PM

i've got a couple NOS ones that look like that. and, honest to god, i'm anticipating the opportunity to put them on. :)

i like to think of it as a random longitudinal herringbone tread pattern, or "RLHTP Technology™".

RoadTire 02-16-15 07:49 PM

Anyone seen the OP around anywhere? I'm getting worried....

kbarch 02-16-15 08:46 PM

I sure hope it's safe. I inspect my tires often enough, but not under a magnifying glass, and I don't think I'd notice if the rubber looked like that unless I did. I would notice the squaring off, though. Like others have said, handling would be sharper with a fresh, round tire, but I don't think it's unsafe to have a slightly square one, and I wouldn't be concerned until I started noticing wear-through.

Doug5150 02-18-15 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 17555314)
I hope you all know that it's not the rubber that gives a tire its structural integrity. It's the carcass/casing. So unless that is exposed, you should be ok.

Yea but the rubber is there to protect the casing....

If you can pinch the deflated tire and see exposed threads at the bottom of any of the cracks, then it should be replaced.
The reason is that road dirt will work down the cracks, get into into the threads and start abrading them internally.

m3ta1head 02-20-15 01:53 PM

Sorry for the lack of update fellas. I ended up throwing a fresh Pro4SC on the front. The old tire was indeed squared off, as evidenced by how smoothly the new one falls into corners. Definitely a huge improvement in how planted the front end feels. Here's a short clip carving some tarmac from that ride on the new tires:



(for some reason the front pads (stock ultegra) started making nasty noises on this descent, I replaced em with swissstops, all good now)

datlas 02-20-15 01:55 PM

We are all relieved to hear you survived.

dtrain 02-20-15 03:28 PM

I wouldn't think twice if that were on the rear wheel. You made the right choice up front.

Homebrew01 02-21-15 07:01 AM

"squared off" tires are not to be feared. The contact patch with the ground is the same.

coasting 02-21-15 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by m3ta1head (Post 17571014)
Sorry for the lack of update fellas. I ended up throwing a fresh Pro4SC on the front. The old tire was indeed squared off, as evidenced by how smoothly the new one falls into corners. Definitely a huge improvement in how planted the front end feels. Here's a short clip carving some tarmac from that ride on the new tires:

all in your head.

datlas 02-21-15 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 17572624)
"squared off" tires are not to be feared. The contact patch with the ground is the same.

I think squared off tires are the future of road cycling.

Nachoman 02-21-15 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 17572739)
all in your head.

You mean those voices telling me how well my new tires perform aren't real?

kbarch 02-21-15 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 17572739)

Originally Posted by m3ta1head (Post 17571014)
The old tire was indeed squared off, as evidenced by how smoothly the new one falls into corners. Definitely a huge improvement in how planted the front end feels. Here's a short clip carving some tarmac from that ride on the new tires:

all in your head.

Sure, as much as ALL our experience is in our heads.
I've experienced the difference between squared-off tires and fresh ones, but I wouldn't have said it made anything feel more "planted." Rather I did find the handling smoother, more evenly and precisely responsive.

DXchulo 02-21-15 09:07 AM

I can definitely feel the difference between squared off tires versus new ones on a descent. I've never felt less safe, but there is certainly a different feel to how the bike handles. It's almost as if the bike wants to ride in a straight line more than normal.

However, I'm talking about tires that look way more squared off than the one in the OP's picture. That's nowhere near squared off in my mind.

lopek77 02-21-15 10:31 AM

Buying expensive road bike - check
Beating your buddies max speed - check
Saving $40 on an old tire and crashing, losing the bike and being unable to ride fast for a year - PRICELESS

Here is the tip - If the tire is looking much different than when new - There must be something wrong with it.

Homebrew01 02-21-15 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by lopek77 (Post 17573080)
Buying expensive road bike - check
Beating your buddies max speed - check
Saving $40 on an old tire and crashing, losing the bike and being unable to ride fast for a year - PRICELESS

Here is the tip - If the tire is looking much different than when new - There must be something wrong with it.

So replace every 250 miles once the little nubs wear off ?

As mentioned many times, the better tire should be on the front, but no reason not to get full life out of the rear tire.

lopek77 02-21-15 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Looigi (Post 17555214)
It's fine. Pro3s do that. Pro4s do it less. If the rear is worn to the cords, put that front on the rear and a new tire on the front.


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 17555277)
"squaring off" is just normal tire wear and does not mean anything more. No need to replace until the cords show or real damage.


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 17555314)
I hope you all know that it's not the rubber that gives a tire its structural integrity. It's the carcass/casing. So unless that is exposed, you should be ok.

Wow...is this a joke or something? You guys buying expensive bikes, components, new fancy technology, and are ok riding super fast on a crappy tires?
I can't believe my eyes I see such opinions. That sounds just plain stupid. Darwin award may come your way one day, but don't suggest to others that dangerous choices. Cheap snob is what comes to my mind.
Rant over, stay safe and use your heads...

lopek77 02-21-15 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 17573121)
So replace every 250 miles once the little nubs wear off ?

As mentioned many times, the better tire should be on the front, but no reason not to get full life out of the rear tire.

Cracked tire is NOT a good or safe tire. This one already did 2000 miles, and OP posted this thread here for a reason.

cale 02-21-15 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 17573121)
So replace every 250 miles once the little nubs wear off ?

My riding center is hilly and twisty. My tires wear accordingly. The OP's tire looked as though it had seen a lot of straight roads.

Some riders are more likely to ride on the peripheral parts of the tires. Heck, some people can't make a left turn worth a damn but can sweep through rights turns like nobody's business. We tend to wear tires differently.

Homebrew01 02-21-15 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by lopek77 (Post 17573129)
Wow...is this a joke or something?

No.
Damaged tires should be replaced immediately, especially if front tires. 1/2 worn tires can still be used.

Tires do not explode after half the rubber is worn. The cords/casing are the important part, and any damage to them most likely requires a new tire. The rubber does protect the tube also, but not as much.

So, replace it whenever you want, but I prefer to get full use before replacing.


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