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Riders who avoid pulling

Old 03-12-15, 09:26 AM
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pulling for the last two miles and expecting to finish first seems like a particularly bad combination. And doesn't everyone know how to repeatedly gap someone like this so they get dropped? Yes, I had a misspent youth learning stupid cycling tricks.
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Old 03-12-15, 06:47 PM
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Why do people think that being in a charity or friendly ride makes it OK to attempt to finish first after making others do all the work for 95 kilometers or whatever? Forget racing sportsmanship; it's patently selfish, inconsiderate and downright un-friendly. One shouldn't have to pin on a number to expect thoughtfulness from ones fellow riders.
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Old 03-12-15, 07:01 PM
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I love doing this. I ride at the back, drafting everyone until the very end and them pass everyone as I yell dispersions about their abilities and mama.
I got the headtube sticker online, but it really sets me above the crowd.
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Old 03-12-15, 07:25 PM
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I have no problem taking my turn pulling... But i weigh. 110 lbs, ride an aero tri bike, and wear a smaller dress size than your girlfriend. No body wants to draft me. I often end up chilling in the back of the pace line out of courtesy. Eventually i feel so bad i end up pulling out and paralleling the group just so i feel like i did my own work for a few miles.
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Originally Posted by EvilWeasel View Post
I have no problem taking my turn pulling... But i weigh. 110 lbs, ride an aero tri bike, and wear a smaller dress size than your girlfriend. No body wants to draft me. I often end up chilling in the back of the pace line out of courtesy. Eventually i feel so bad i end up pulling out and paralleling the group just so i feel like i did my own work for a few miles.
A TT bike in a group ride?
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Old 03-12-15, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FLvector View Post
A TT bike in a group ride?
How'd you miss out on the wearing a dress part?
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Old 03-12-15, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
How'd you miss out on the wearing a dress part?
Ha. Good point. Wearing a dress and know one wants to draft her? Somethings wrong there. Unless its a he.
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Old 03-12-15, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FLvector View Post
A TT bike in a group ride?
Lots of triathletes join in group rides. I do. I just keep my hands near the brakes so people don't complain.
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Old 03-12-15, 11:12 PM
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Crazy how a little exercise induced localized muscular fatigue will make the rats start chewing on each other. Sounded like the OP was in a pain car wash and needed a little help from all to maintain his need for speed. I only like to pace with friends that I know understand how a pace line works. Be they female or male. I appreciate when they don't do crazy things that could crash everyone out. I find that a lot of "organized rides" bring the rats out and literally you have to be on your guard or you could be riding next to a Manx missile who's got a clete malfunction. Sounds like you had a good time on the bike -I mean you were on a bike how cool was that?
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Old 03-13-15, 02:54 AM
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I don't understand the mentality of looking down on a rider for not pulling. In most groups, you'll have a mix of abilities. Even if they are all super fit and experienced riders, not everyone is suited for pulling the group. Some can hammer at the front for hours and some are great climbers, some are sprinters. In our groups, we typically have a mix of guys and gals that race cat2 to cat 5 with some strong weekend warrior types mixed in. The riders with big engines do a majority of the pulling, that's how cycling works.

What annoys me is when someone joins our ride and tries to do "their share" on the front without knowing better and then gets dropped. It's not that hard to keep a big group together riding fast and smooth if people know what they are doing. By the way, a couple of the gals on our team don't take big pulls at the front, but they can drop 99% of the guys (including some strong cat 2/3 men) when things get steep.
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Old 03-13-15, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by velocity View Post
Sounded like the OP was in a pain car wash and needed a little help from all to maintain his need for speed
That's because you have very poor reading comprehension.
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Old 03-13-15, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by grwoolf View Post
I don't understand the mentality of looking down on a rider for not pulling. In most groups, you'll have a mix of abilities.
I think some of you only read the first sentence of a thread or something.
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Originally Posted by grwoolf View Post
I don't understand the mentality of looking down on a rider for not pulling.
Of course if you can't do something, not doing it is expected. What people look down on is dishonesty: in this case, someone who got pulled the whole way trying to finish in front of those who did all the work for the group.

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Old 03-13-15, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RR3 View Post
I can't stand the one rider who pushes the pace
Don't follow him then, let him go.

A wise cyclist once told me "The guy who rides off the front of the paceline isn't the idiot, it's the second guy in line who chases him who is."
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Originally Posted by Lazyass View Post
That's because you have very poor reading comprehension.
Nope- Here are some words that come to mind about you being used like a tool thread...
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But my favorite would be King of ambiguity! Get my meaning?
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Damn dude, you almost broke the thesaurus.
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Originally Posted by kbarch View Post
Of course if you can't do something, not doing it is expected. What people look down on is dishonesty: in this case, someone who got pulled the whole way trying to finish in front of those who did all the work for the group.
If this about who pulls into the parking lot first at the end of a group ride or charity ride, that's even more bazzar to me. I guess it would be a little weird if someone went to the front at the end of a ride after not pulling all day, but I can't comprehend why anyone would care.
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Old 03-13-15, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FLvector View Post
A TT bike in a group ride?
There are guys here in Austin who are safer in a paceline on their tri bikes than half the people in this thread are on their road bikes. Please note that I am not in that group; you don't want me in your paceline on my road bike.
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Originally Posted by grwoolf View Post
If this about who pulls into the parking lot first at the end of a group ride or charity ride, that's even more bazzar to me. I guess it would be a little weird if someone went to the front at the end of a ride after not pulling all day, but I can't comprehend why anyone would care.
Do you think it's bizarre for the people who do the work to expect to finish ahead of those who don't? If doing the work wasn't an issue, there wouldn't have been a paceline to begin with, in which case I'd agree: if everyone was just lollygagging the whole way, no one would have cause to complain of ANYONE sprinting ahead at the end.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post
There are guys here in Austin who are safer in a paceline on their tri bikes than half the people in this thread are on their road bikes. Please note that I am not in that group; you don't want me in your paceline on my road bike.
I was just kidding. And I agree. Some you don't want to be on the same road with, but others are very capable in riding very steady in a group. As long as they only go down on their bars while up front and stay on the hoods to have access to their brakes the rest of the time.
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I haven't been in a pace line in years. I can't wait to bust my balls trying to Crack 21 mph for more then a couple miles. When you see my tongue hanging out please tap me out
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Originally Posted by kbarch View Post
Do you think it's bizarre for the people who do the work to expect to finish ahead of those who don't? If doing the work wasn't an issue, there wouldn't have been a paceline to begin with, in which case I'd agree: if everyone was just lollygagging the whole way, no one would have cause to complain of ANYONE sprinting ahead at the end.
Yes, I think that's strange. If it's some kind of race to the last street sign or into the parking lot, then it's game on. If you don't like someone else "winning", then don't let them. If it's just the typical end of a ride and the group isn't "racing" into the parking lot, why would it matter who is at the front of the group?
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Originally Posted by kbarch View Post
Do you think it's bizarre for the people who do the work to expect to finish ahead of those who don't? If doing the work wasn't an issue, there wouldn't have been a paceline to begin with, in which case I'd agree: if everyone was just lollygagging the whole way, no one would have cause to complain of ANYONE sprinting ahead at the end.
Some like to finish a ride with an all out sprint, while others like to back off and do a cool down the last 1/2 mile. If you really want to finish strong for some fun competition, then make sure you're in the right position in the pace line so you are fully recovered when the sprint begins. The rest of the ride shouldn't matter much unless you're out of shape. Otherwise, who really cares who rolls in first.
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