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Old 03-11-15, 09:20 AM
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Riders who avoid pulling

They suck, especially when they're a "racer", have their name on the top tube and try to act like the group leader when they aren't. Yes ma'am, we could tell what you were doing, you made it pretty obvious. But gee thanks for finally pulling the last two miles of a 100K. Too bad you still didn't finish first like I know you planned. Wanted everyone to see a girl beating the guys, huh. Just wanted to vent
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I have never avoided pulling. Wait, what are we talking about here?
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I take charity rides super serous and make it a point to shell the free loaders in the pacelines I form. They never last long in the rollers anyway.
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I'm happy to take pulls- for all the good it does the guy behind my 'bent. Based on reports it's little to none, but I'm still happy to be in front.
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Originally Posted by delcrossv
I'm happy to take pulls- for all the good it does the guy behind my 'bent. Based on reports it's little to none, but I'm still happy to be in front.
I tried to hang with two guys on recumbents once. I lasted maybe 200 meters. Does anyone know where I can get a sticker with my name and an American flag on it? I want to put one on my Paramount
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Wait, are we talking about like a sticker or decal under the clearcoat?
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
They suck, especially when they're a "racer", have their name on the top tube and try to act like the group leader when they aren't.
On our shop's Thursday night ladies ride, the fast women put their name on their tube tops.
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I can't stand the one rider who pushes the pace throwing the majority into oxygen debt and then they can't fathom why the paceline slows when they pull over.
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anyone who wants to fall in behind my slow ass is more than welcome.
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^^ I like those riders, shell the weak, keep the group select
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I pay for the right to participate in group rides so I ride when, where and how I please
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Originally Posted by RR3
I can't stand the one rider who pushes the pace throwing the majority into oxygen debt and then they can't fathom why the paceline slows when they pull over.
But when the pace is only 20-21mph and you won't take the front when you have your name on the top tube...... COME ON MAN
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Originally Posted by rms13
I pay for the right to participate in group rides
that is foolishness.
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When that person "avoiding pulling" does wind up in front, what happens? If everyone else promptly passes him/her up because the pace line just slowed down by 1 mph, it's not that person's fault, it's the groups' fault. Equal pulling by all participants is fine, but that means the fastest people in the group are going to be riding slower than what they otherwise would be doing part of the time. And if they're not willing to do that, the alternative is either split up or let the faster people do all the pulling.
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What's this name on the top tube ****?
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Who cares??? As long as they are safe riders let them have their 5 mins of glory. I ride to enjoy myself not worry about simple $hit like this.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Yes ma'am, we could tell what you were doing, you made it pretty obvious.
Did she ask for your phone number afterwards?

I've known guys who will occasionally draft on ladies because they... ahem... like the view. Maybe she was just inclined similarly?
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Originally Posted by thump55
On our shop's Thursday night ladies ride, the fast women put their name on their tube tops.
I had a fast women try to put her name on my top tube once.. Ohh wait what are we talking about again??
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Originally Posted by BillyD


Nice photo. Now I'm wanting some corn...
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How do they avoid it when people start dropping back? Just start getting the group to do a double pace line and your problems are solved.
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It's her loss. If she does indeed race at all, sucking wheel won't get you fit. That being said, I could care less if someone sucks my wheel all day long, and at the end 'beats' me to the 'finish', especially talking about just some random weekend group ride. A group I ride with has a woman that uses a tri bike even, and she never pulls. Group doesn't care though. If she can keep up, it's all good. I was even scolded (very nicely) for letting her pull too long doing a rotating paceline.

ETA: why does it matter that she has a sticker on her bike with her name on it again?
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Petite women often only take token pulls by consensus since they create little draft.
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Originally Posted by StephenH
When that person "avoiding pulling" does wind up in front, what happens? If everyone else promptly passes him/her up because the pace line just slowed down by 1 mph, it's not that person's fault, it's the groups' fault. Equal pulling by all participants is fine, but that means the fastest people in the group are going to be riding slower than what they otherwise would be doing part of the time. And if they're not willing to do that, the alternative is either split up or let the faster people do all the pulling.
It is that person's fault. If you can't maintain the pace of the group at the front, you've got two options: One, when you get to the front, pulloff immediately (as soon as the previous rider clears your wheel; or Two, don't go to the front (sit at the back and let riders coming off the front slot in front of you.)

Both of these options are less disruptive to the group than trying to take your fair pull and letting the pace drop.

Which illustrates ( which I think was your point) that insisting on everyone taking equal pulls isn't practical in a group of mixed abilities.
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