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1st Bike Specialized Secteur Sport VS Trek Madone 2.1

Old 03-23-15, 02:46 PM
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1st Bike Specialized Secteur Sport VS Trek Madone 2.1

This will be my first bike , I'm 48 year old - 5'10 180 .. Thinking about the better ride of the Secteur , but like the component set of the Madone (10 speed Shimano 105).. I'm a newbie and need some advice.

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**New 2015 - Specialized Secteur Sport**

$1050

9 speed - Shimano Sora groupset


**New (clearence) 2013 - Trek Madone 2.1**

$999 sale price

10 speed - 105 groupset


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Old 03-23-15, 03:23 PM
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My two cents? as a newbie, I think you'd feel the better comfort on the Secteur than you'd feel the better components on the Madone.
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For a first bike, get the one that feels better and makes you want to ride NOW. That may evolve after you start riding. It's hard to motivate yourself to go out and get some miles in if it doesn't make you happy to be on the thing, especially when breaking in your butt.

They're both good bikes, and 3500 Sora does what it needs to do, too.

I'm more comfortable on my '13 Madone 3.1 than anything else I've tried, the geometry works perfectly for me, despite being a little more aggressive. It's the same bike as the 2.1, essentially, just with the aluminum frame. We're all unique, so test rides are the best tool.
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Old 03-23-15, 09:27 PM
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Both are aluminum frames , but the Secteur has zertz inserts , is that truth or hype for a better ride then the Madone ?
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Originally Posted by Roadjumper View Post
Both are aluminum frames , but the Secteur has zertz inserts , is that truth or hype for a better ride then the Madone ?
It isn't about the efficacy of zertz which are often questioned. They work btw. But rather its the geometry difference between the two bikes that makes a big difference in the character of each. I much prefer the Secteur because of the taller head tube as an older rider. Geometry and riding position trumps any minor difference between the two bikes.
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Old 03-24-15, 06:34 AM
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The fact that I love my 2014 Secteur Sport has no bearing on you. The Sora 9 speed has been fine for me. I too am a beginner and started riding Jan '15. For me, I tried just about every brand out there but when I sat on the Secteur, I felt like I was in a Formula 1 race car built for me. Everything just felt like it was molded for me to my specs. It just felt right. The other bikes made be feel like I was stretched out in comparison. I now have over 400 miles on it.

To me, take the bike that just feels right. As a beginner, I am not sure if you will feel the difference between the drivetrains/brifters. Also, something to consider is that all drivetrain components will wear out in time. I would think that Sora components might be cheaper to replace that 105. Might not be much but it might make you feel better about the Sora purchase then it is good to point out.

The Sora shifters are better than what most are use to from 2013 and before. They are very much like the upper models now if function. No longer have the thumb button of the past.

Also, if the wheels can handle a 11 speed cassette (ask LBS if they can), then you could always upgrade when you need to replace worn components for $350 - $450.

Is the 2013 Trek an 11 or 10 speed? Current 105 is an 11 speed. OOOPs. Missed the fact that you stated it was a 10. It is the older version of the 105 and I am not sure how backward compatible the 11 is to the 10. I wonder if finding parts will be an issue being the outgoing version. Might want to take this into consideration too.

Many have told me that the bike you buy will not be the same that you will look for 2 years from now. Your flexibility will change, your needs will change and your knowledge will improve. You should not buy for what tomorrow MAY bring but can only purchase based on what you need now. At the same time, do not be surprised if you desire to sell it 2 years from now or have a motivation for something slightly different or with even better fit.

If it is a tie, then take components and features into it. Also, if the ride of one feels better or the amount of lean forward due to geometry (I know the Secteur is a relaxed geometry bike. Not sure of the Trek), remember to take that into consideration.

I think either would be a great bike to purchase.

Follow everyone's advice and get the one that just feels better.

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Old 03-24-15, 07:04 AM
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I'm 46 and just moved to a comfort geometry bike, it was a good move for me, between those two the Spesh would be my choice. other considerations in the genre: Giant Defy, Cannondale Synapse, Trek Domane, BMC GF02 and others. but really the question is for you to answer, test ride and see which you prefer, or more to the point, which agrees with your body most.
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Old 03-24-15, 07:32 AM
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One is a race geometry the other is an endurance geometry. I have the Sectuer and it's perfectly fine.

But as many others have said, ride them both.
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Old 03-24-15, 07:46 AM
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I'd go with the Trek madone 2.1 with better components
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Old 03-24-15, 08:04 AM
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as has been pointed out... the real difference in the two, the one that you will likely notice the most, is the geometry...
they are two different type bikes, designed for two different purposes...
go with the one you feel the most comfortable on.
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Old 03-24-15, 08:46 AM
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I actually have both, a 2011 2.1 with 105 10 speed as well as a 2008 Secteur with 9 speed Taigra. They are both great bikes although a little different rides. Actually, I think the Trek has less road buzz and better bump absorption than the Secteur. I like both and the good news is you won't make a bad decision between these two.
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Ride them both, buy the one you like the most.
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If you like the Madone's fit after a test ride, use 25c tires at 10 psi lower pressure than 23c. That makes a huge difference on rough roads. Good tires, lightweight with flexible sidewalls like Continental GP4000, will be expensive, but I think they are worth the extra cost.
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I sure appreciate everyone's advice and knowledge. I'm going test ride both today.

*The biggest plus for the Trek Madone 2.1 has going for it on the surface seems to be the Groupset - 105 Shimano 10 speed components. (Also from what I've been told, has higher options to upgrade)

*The Specialized Secteur has a more relaxed fit and built on the Roubaix frame set. Also the zertz inserts I imagine helps some. On the negative , I hear 9 speed is on its way out and maybe hard to replace.

Anyway going ride both today.
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Old 03-24-15, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadjumper View Post
I sure appreciate everyone's advice and knowledge. I'm going test ride both today.

*The biggest plus for the Trek Madone 2.1 has going for it on the surface seems to be the Groupset - 105 Shimano 10 speed components. (Also from what I've been told, has higher options to upgrade)

*The Specialized Secteur has a more relaxed fit and built on the Roubaix frame set. Also the zertz inserts I imagine helps some. On the negative , I hear 9 speed is on its way out and maybe hard to replace.

Anyway going ride both today.
They've been saying that about 9 speed stuff being hard to replace for a while but I've got my doubts. There will be 9 speed hybrids on the market for a long time and the 9 speed cassettes they use are probably the same as the ones they use on the entry-level road bikes.
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Old 03-25-15, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadjumper View Post
I sure appreciate everyone's advice and knowledge. I'm going test ride both today.

*The biggest plus for the Trek Madone 2.1 has going for it on the surface seems to be the Groupset - 105 Shimano 10 speed components. (Also from what I've been told, has higher options to upgrade)

*The Specialized Secteur has a more relaxed fit and built on the Roubaix frame set. Also the zertz inserts I imagine helps some. On the negative , I hear 9 speed is on its way out and maybe hard to replace.

Anyway going ride both today.
Yeah the test ride should decide it. Go on multiple test rides for both bikes if need be and consider other brands as well.

11-32 9 speed may not shift as crisply as 10 speed, but your test rides will let you know if that's the case or not.
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Well rode both bikes , but I ended up buying neither one...

While I was at the Bike Shop , i was shown a New option. And when I got on it, and gave it a spin.. I knew it was the bike for me. It had all the ingredients I felt was important at the price point I wanted to spend. The specs. We're a slam dunk over the The Specialized Secteur Sport 14 & 15 models priced at $1100 & $1050. And the ride was superior over the New 2013 Trek Madone 2.1 priced at $1000.00 bucks.

I purchased a Brand New 2013 - Trek Domane 2.0 for a sweet $1,109.99 !!
It came with a Shimano Tiagra 10 speed group set. And the ride was great, the geometry of the bike fit me perfectly. Well it's going to fit even better when I go in and get fitted in a few weeks.

Here's a pic of my new bike :-)


It kinda crazy how things go sometimes.
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I think the Domane will provide longer life as you progress with cycling. Its a good all purpose bike -ride it on roads, the greenway, fast group rides, dirt and gravel, light touring (it will take a lightweight rack and fenders), etc. Just a good all purpose bike and I will likely have one too pretty soon.
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Originally Posted by Roadjumper View Post
Well rode both bikes , but I ended up buying neither one...

While I was at the Bike Shop , i was shown a New option. And when I got on it, and gave it a spin.. I knew it was the bike for me. It had all the ingredients I felt was important at the price point I wanted to spend. The specs. We're a slam dunk over the The Specialized Secteur Sport 14 & 15 models priced at $1100 & $1050. And the ride was superior over the New 2013 Trek Madone 2.1 priced at $1000.00 bucks.

I purchased a Brand New 2013 - Trek Domane 2.0 for a sweet $1,109.99 !!
It came with a Shimano Tiagra 10 speed group set. And the ride was great, the geometry of the bike fit me perfectly. Well it's going to fit even better when I go in and get fitted in a few weeks.

Here's a pic of my new bike :-)


It kinda crazy how things go sometimes.
Awesome. Isn't it funny how sometimes a bike just picks you?
Many times when you see someone looking for this type of advice it is because they were not enamored with the choices. Often times, when you test ride bikes you just know which one is right. For my first bike, I vasilated back and forth between The Trek , Giant Defy and the Cannondale Caad.. On a whim, I went to a different shop that carried Felt. One ride on the Felt and I knew that was the bike. It was just more comfortable and fit me better. It was a great bike for my introduction to the road.
I hope that you truly enjoy the sport and your new toy.
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nice bike!!! grats!!!
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As I was reading this thread, I was wondering if the LBS had any older Domane. Same great Trek quality, but relaxed geometry. Tiagra is a good group set; you have a great 1st bike! Now you know why the first criteria when finding the right bike is fit rather than color :-) Congrats on the nice ride!
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I got back into cycling last year after retiring and bought a Secteur. Very happy with it. Comfortable geometry. The bike I had before that was a Schwinn Traveler.


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congrats. Nice bike for sure. Now go get some seat time.
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Good decision, roadjumper.
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Thanks , yea I'm happy with it for sure. Going ride a little today ��
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