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02-10-19, 07:06 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Actually, that format has turned up on Centurion....

Actually, that format has turned up on Centurion. I don't know the identity of the source but it's consistent with the manufacturer of the Centurion Ironman Carbons and some of the very late...
02-05-19, 09:08 AM
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FYI, the Turbo is a 1984 model. This is confirmed...

FYI, the Turbo is a 1984 model. This is confirmed by both the very early 1984 serial number and the Turbo being dropped from the USA product line for 1985.
04-19-18, 07:54 AM
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About a handful with this format and location...

About a handful with this format and location have surfaced. In the one case where component date codes were submitted, the first numeral in the serial number did correcpond to the year of the...
09-29-17, 07:17 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Regarding Kuwahara, the only 1980's serial number...

Regarding Kuwahara, the only 1980's serial number format that I've seen for them is yy mm xxxxx. It is typically stamped on the lower seat tube and was also used on the contract manufactured frames...
09-27-17, 02:46 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

The Ridge Runner is almost certainly a 1984 model...

The Ridge Runner is almost certainly a 1984 model . The serial number indicates July 1983 frame manufactutre and this is in the grey area where it could a 1984. This is supported by the presence of...
09-09-17, 09:46 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Centurion were manufactured by a wide variety of...

Centurion were manufactured by a wide variety of sources. I believe I've documented well over a dozen different formats. This thread documents the most common handful, which comprise about 95% of the...
05-18-17, 12:27 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

A handful of these have surfaced and they all...

A handful of these have surfaced and they all have been from 1981, so it may be a one year only model. They were definitely entry level, with the sole 'touring' amenity being the triple crankset....
05-18-17, 12:19 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Based on the serial number number, the Lemans RS...

Based on the serial number number, the Lemans RS is a 1986 model. The component swap itself should be straight forward. Despite your comment about the Lemans RS having more clearance, the spec 400N...
04-13-17, 08:48 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Yes, the VGT shown is the 4902 version, which...

Yes, the VGT shown is the 4902 version, which would make the catalogue no older than the 1974 model year. However, the database has a handful of early 1975 Semi-Pro (as early as the 2nd fortnight)....
04-13-17, 06:31 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

FWIW, that same catalogue centre-spread is...

FWIW, that same catalogue centre-spread is featured in The Dancing Chain and Berto states it is from 1975.
04-13-17, 06:27 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

That's just a faded 1970s Tange Champion decal...

That's just a faded 1970s Tange Champion decal that is missing some of the text.

Yes, there was a Pro Tour in my database, format MFxxxxx. It could go either way. I only raised it as another...
04-12-17, 04:52 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Thxs for the new data sets. Regarding the 1976...

Thxs for the new data sets. Regarding the 1976 Pro Tour (blue), the serial number may be correct. While there haven't been many, this format has been seen before on Centurion and the 'F', being sixth...
04-12-17, 02:05 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Hey, I've seen this one before! ;)

Hey, I've seen this one before! ;)
04-11-17, 06:07 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Contrary to your previous post, the Elite does go...

Contrary to your previous post, the Elite does go back to at least 1979. The headbadge style you describe dates circa 1980-1982. Based on the components it should be 1980, possibly 1981. I suspect...
03-07-17, 06:59 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

1st generation Shimano 105 (aka Golden Arrow) was...

1st generation Shimano 105 (aka Golden Arrow) was 1983-1986. The 1983 Centurion models used head tube decals, at least in America. Also, the 1983 Elite 12 was equipped with SunTour Cyclone and 105...
03-05-17, 08:09 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Welcome to the forums. Yes, your bicycle is a...

Welcome to the forums. Yes, your bicycle is a 1985 model. The Aerobars are a definite customer revision and the 1985 Elite RS was spec'd with Shimano New 600EX. However, the 600EX decal is another...
03-01-16, 06:25 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Thxs for posting, sroller. The Team Pursuit is...

Thxs for posting, sroller. The Team Pursuit is particularly interesting. It has a Miki serial number format at a time when WSI was no longer sourcing from them for the USA market. The logical...
07-04-15, 06:44 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

This is not at all strange. It all depends on how...

This is not at all strange. It all depends on how you have registered your company name. Most companies start out on a small scale and minimize costs by registering their brand name only in the their...
09-12-13, 08:19 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Bor0wy, welcome to the forums. Components are a...

Bor0wy, welcome to the forums. Components are a mish-mash but most are late 1980s. The Sprint front derailleur and crank and SVx rear derailleur both came out in 1986. SunTour Cyclone 7000 came out...
06-12-13, 06:42 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Most manufacturers determine frame size based on...

Most manufacturers determine frame size based on the seat tube. For a model with a traditional, horizontal top tube there are two methods. First, is the length measured along the centerline of the...
06-11-13, 06:12 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

OK, we've got Oct 1973, February 1974 and March...

OK, we've got Oct 1973, February 1974 and March 1974. That means it's probably a 1974 model. Thxs.
06-11-13, 10:40 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

I'd appreciate it if you could check out some...

I'd appreciate it if you could check out some more date codes. It's probably original, but sometimes you run into the situation where the rear derailleur has been replaced by the same model. The more...
06-11-13, 05:01 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

That's not the poster's bicycle, only a picture...

That's not the poster's bicycle, only a picture of a similar one.

Kylesoule, welcome to the forums! It's one of the early Raleigh Grand Prix clones, probably boom era or shortly thereafter....
06-07-13, 06:23 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

I'm assuming the serial number is actually...

I'm assuming the serial number is actually N5K5532, as opposed to NSK5532, which would make it a 1985 model.
05-19-13, 03:48 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Agreed, it looks more like a 54cm.

Agreed, it looks more like a 54cm.
05-02-13, 10:50 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

No serial number? As far as this thread is...

No serial number? As far as this thread is concerned, you didn't own one. :innocent:
05-01-13, 05:14 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

That's one of the advantages of having the...

That's one of the advantages of having the database. To date, we've had samples spanning the timeframe of 1977 to 1980. However, it appears that they existed earlier than 1977 as there are photos of...
04-29-13, 05:18 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Without going back and doublechecking, I beleive...

Without going back and doublechecking, I beleive the Shimano New 105 in coijunction with the Unicrown fork makes this a 1988 Ironman Ezpert as the 1989 version used SunTour GPX and the 1987 had a...
04-13-13, 09:17 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

I always associated Le Mans with the French race...

I always associated Le Mans with the French race course situated near the city of the same name and famous for the 24 hour endurance race. IMO, Pontiac's use of the name was in poor taste.
04-12-13, 07:33 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

I'm almost positive it's a LeMans. It has stamped...

I'm almost positive it's a LeMans. It has stamped dropouts, chromed fork ends and top tube cable stops. The lugs are the corect style too. The only thing it seems to be missing is the black panel...
04-11-13, 09:40 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Definitely 1970s based on the headbadge. Lacking...

Definitely 1970s based on the headbadge. Lacking photos I'd have to guess at it being a LeMans, as that was the most popular model and therefore has the greatest chance of turning up. In addition to...
02-27-13, 06:24 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Thxs. It appears that WSI was having their...

Thxs. It appears that WSI was having their contractor stockpile frames for the upcoming 1986 model year. With the exception of the hubs, all the other components postdate the frame by 2-4 months!
02-26-13, 07:03 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Interesting, they started building the 1986...

Interesting, they started building the 1986 models 1/2 way though 1985. I wonder if they were just stocking up on the frames or if they introduced it early, as soon as the SIS version of New 600EX...
02-25-13, 01:57 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Yes it does indeed appear to be a 1986 model,...

Yes it does indeed appear to be a 1986 model, with the stated mods. However, since this is the Centurion Serial Number Database thread, posting of serial numbers is appreciated.
02-25-13, 11:29 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Yes, almost certianly is a Centurion, as it has...

Yes, almost certianly is a Centurion, as it has some Centurion branded parts and that serial number format has popped up on 4 other Centurion. Unfortunately, the owners did not provide sufficent...
12-31-12, 07:52 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

They're similar as best. Centurion didn't chrome...

They're similar as best. Centurion didn't chrome the chainstay or color match the the forks to the seat and head tube on the two tone Ironman models. Two tone paint schemes by tube were very common...
10-09-12, 04:44 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

More importantly, why would they bother to make...

More importantly, why would they bother to make decals and spell Centurion incorrectly?
10-09-12, 07:24 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

:eek: Another "Centurian". I don't know how many...

:eek: Another "Centurian". I don't know how many times I've seen Centurion spelled this way (i.e. incorrectly, with an "a" instead of an "o") in this thread, but this is the first time it's turned up...
10-05-12, 07:23 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

That's one of the things were trying to establish...

That's one of the things were trying to establish via this database. As for the rear derailleur, I wouldn't assume a date solely on one component. During the boom, some manufacturers were very poor...
10-04-12, 07:23 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Typically, the LeMans used slightly upscale...

Typically, the LeMans used slightly upscale derailleurs. The presence of the GT rear derailleur and Spirt front derailleur suggest the entry level Centurion Sport. The cotterless crankset versus a...
10-03-12, 02:57 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

No, you wait a minute. ;) Robbie and Ashley...

No, you wait a minute. ;) Robbie and Ashley promised me an Ironman a long, long, long time ago. I'm stilll waiting.... :rolleyes:
09-26-12, 07:09 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

WSI did not introduce their hybrid line until...

WSI did not introduce their hybrid line until 1991. Given the 200GS components and Centurion branding, it is obviously a non-USA model. The 200GS, assuming it's OEM, places it circa 1991-1992 and...
09-22-12, 07:26 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

32s would probably be quite tight. You might have...

32s would probably be quite tight. You might have to carry a spoke wrench with you to keep the wheels true after every pothole and set and tracks you hit.:innocent:
09-19-12, 04:52 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Decals, head badge and serial number place it...

Decals, head badge and serial number place it 1981. Frame fittings indicate an entry level model, but given the orignal componets are gone, it's impossible to say which model. However, it's all moot...
09-18-12, 04:41 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Shimano New 105 was introduced for the 1987 model...

Shimano New 105 was introduced for the 1987 model year. Consequently, it had some new technological advances over New 600EX (introduced 1984) and New Dura-Ace (introduced 1985). Most notable was the...
09-18-12, 08:08 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

The 1989 ironman frames almost invariably turn up...

The 1989 ironman frames almost invariably turn up in the marble paint jobs. While I don't have any objective evidence of the black being offered, WSI often offered a more restrained finish for the...
09-18-12, 07:41 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

Yes, it's definitely from the 1970s and the best...

Yes, it's definitely from the 1970s and the best candidate is a LeMans. Unfortunately, I can't tell you the exact year, as I've been unable to collect sufficient data on the Centurion from this...
02-22-12, 12:46 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

This is definitely not the same Centurion Turbo...

This is definitely not the same Centurion Turbo as released in the USA, where it was the top model! Regardless, the 2nd digit is likely a 3, The metal headbadge was dropped 1985 (in the USA) and top...
02-22-12, 12:26 PM
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Posted By T-Mar

Thxs for taking the time to do this. The round...

Thxs for taking the time to do this. The round head badge came out in 1979, so this is probably 1977/1978. If the fenders are OEM, then I would think that Custom is proably the model name, as...
02-21-12, 07:53 AM
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Posted By T-Mar

While this is a new serial number format, it's...

While this is a new serial number format, it's tempting to say it's 1977/1978. The component mix is almost the identical to a Centurion Sport from the era, with the exceptions of the bars, which...
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