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09-09-19, 04:43 AM
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Posted By adipe

the delta tension from motor or pedaling torque...

the delta tension from motor or pedaling torque is not that high considering the flange is large enough. i won't go into vectorial decomposition right now as to present the numbers for the delta...
09-08-19, 02:33 AM
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Posted By adipe

looks nice enough; be careful to not...

looks nice enough;
be careful to not excessively wash the rim/nipples/spokes. remember stress corrosion cracking. usual dirt is not to be minded about.
salty conditions will have you needing to...
09-08-19, 02:28 AM
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Posted By adipe

this is the mechanics section. if you don't want...

this is the mechanics section. if you don't want to think go ride.
your post here is troll-ish, it gives democracy the vote into unscientific dogma.

no mean to offend, just that i'm on the...
09-07-19, 07:01 AM
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Posted By adipe

lateral runout affects radial adjustment by about...

lateral runout affects radial adjustment by about 1/10. so, of course you need to bring lateral runout to a low level, just that you need not be as precise as +/-0.05mm at that stage. you could be...
09-06-19, 01:49 PM
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Posted By adipe

up to the 23rd...

up to the 23rd (https://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.php?p=21095671&postcount=24) post on this thread you can have the complete picture: a motor hub (large flange) with 3x spoke pattern and a stained...
09-06-19, 01:32 PM
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Posted By adipe

0. some hubs don't allow more than a certain...

0. some hubs don't allow more than a certain amount of average tension. there are some anecdotal evidence for Chris King hubs that have their bearings becoming loose. other hubs could break if you go...
09-04-19, 05:14 AM
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Posted By adipe

i get attacked after i explain how things work....

i get attacked after i explain how things work. credit is not given. it seems that people feel insecure and therefore attack to defend their ignorance.
insulted. yet again. as if i were selling...
09-03-19, 07:57 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 4,376
Posted By adipe

i would suggest spending money on a quality wide...

i would suggest spending money on a quality wide rim, buying (or borrowing) yourself some laser tool...
09-03-19, 06:23 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 4,376
Posted By adipe

i am not an engineer by profession, i educated...

i am not an engineer by profession, i educated myself by internet searching after i had lost hope to find local wheelbuilders i could trust for a good job. and i don't know all the language as i am...
09-03-19, 04:11 PM
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Posted By adipe

you can choose to disregard as anecdotal evidence...

you can choose to disregard as anecdotal evidence my statement of going almost the same NDS as the DS=180kgf with no wheel collapse, spoke/nipple pull through etc.. and that was done with a 6061-T6...
09-03-19, 11:06 AM
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Posted By adipe

extreme tension is the jobst brandt way...

extreme tension is the jobst brandt way (described and supported by him, not that he invented it). not that he has everything right about everything.
that is going lower tension after turning the...
09-01-19, 04:08 PM
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Posted By adipe

this finger pressing thing at a low tension...

this finger pressing thing at a low tension cannot do the same effect as when under very high tension.

going a very high tension will achieve a more precise bending of the spoke where it's needed....
09-01-19, 10:01 AM
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Posted By adipe

2x can be good enough for a large flange motor...

2x can be good enough for a large flange motor hub.

if you don't care how it's built you should care at least for the final figures... a semitone tension variance and 0.1mm total radial runout...
09-01-19, 09:50 AM
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Posted By adipe

pressing on the spoke with the fingers hardly...

pressing on the spoke with the fingers hardly achieve anything - near the nipples that is.
you have to press really hard when grabbing parallel spokes at the middle.

for example... you can hardly...
08-31-19, 05:33 AM
Replies: 94
Views: 4,376
Posted By adipe

i would rather bend the spoke indirectly by...

i would rather bend the spoke indirectly by raising the tension to a much more high level...
you can't be that precise using pliers to bend the spokes right where it's needed.
also, the spokes...
08-30-19, 03:34 AM
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Views: 4,376
Posted By adipe

... you could use this rim you have for practice...

... you could use this rim you have for practice if you feel you would risk things when building on a new rim.
i would advise to change the spokes too for a new rim or for different spoke cross etc....
08-30-19, 03:28 AM
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Posted By adipe

i would consider a new rim if the surface is...

i would consider a new rim if the surface is damaged by corrosion (as it is visible in the pics, the rim is visibly stained) and therefore the vulnerability to cracking makes the rim/wheel not worth...
08-29-19, 05:04 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 4,376
Posted By adipe

if spokes are having a large bend at the nipple...

if spokes are having a large bend at the nipple because of the large flange of the hub and the 3x pattern then a solution to prevent spokes breaking at the nipple would be to properly bed in the...
08-29-19, 01:09 PM
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Posted By adipe

2.3/2.0 is what i have, they are on a 128mm...

2.3/2.0 is what i have, they are on a 128mm flange hub, 2x, 18+18 spokes, same kind on each flange. i did not pick them but got the bike with all this and adapted to the given circumstances.
i had...
08-29-19, 01:02 PM
Replies: 94
Views: 4,376
Posted By adipe

you have to make sure the rim surface is treated...

you have to make sure the rim surface is treated with something to inhibit corrosion. i won't get into details as to what would work best, i'm just warning you that rims crack because of that.
it's...
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