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Old 03-15-05 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Serge *******
No Gene, no two people are equal. The rights of all people, however, are equal. That's what my analogy is based on: "Same roads. Same rights. Same rules". That cyclists have the SAME rights and responsibilities as do vehicle drivers. So, yeah, Cars != bikes (! means NOT). But, in the respect that white=blacks that matters, with respect to rights, cyclists = drivers of vehicles.

That's what my analogy is based on. Are you contending that cyclists should NOT have the same rights as vehicle drivers?
Nope, just contending that a "multi thousand pound vehicle with an internal combustion engine" is not the same as a "less than 100 pound two wheeled vehicle that is human powered."

If you cannot see the difference between the two, try towing a boat with your bike at 55 MPH. Cyclists and Motorists are equal, but their use of the facilities are not, and the laws of physics also make Autos not equal to Bikes.


Originally Posted by serge
It doesn't matter Gene. I already addressed it (40 minutes before you asked if I missed it, and 50 minutes before you "answered it for me"). Your question is moot. I'll explain why again. Please read this carefully, and consider how it applies to your question:
Really? Where?

Originally Posted by serge
Would non-mandatory separate water fountains be acceptable to you? How about a law that said blacks couldn't use the whites' fountain, unless they had a good reason, like the blacks' fountain was out of order?
No. Black PEOPLE are the same as White PEOPLE. Water is water. All parts of those equations are equal.

CARS are NOT the same as BICYCLES, otherwise I should also have full access to freeways. Seems that you handily draw the line there... Why?


Originally Posted by serge
The insidious separatist nature of such "facilities" (by they water fountains or lanes) remains, even if their use is not mandatory (without exception).
Insidious indeed! This whole "mandatory bike lane use" thread only applies to one state: Alabama... there are exceptions to mandatory bike lane or no laws requiring bike lane use in all 49 other states.
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