Didn't see this referenced on BF before, so here it is:

Behold, the ultimate winter cycling glove: the M1965 trigger finger mitt with wool inserts:



You can often find these for $15-20 for a pair of shells plus 2-3 inserts. Snoseal optional.

I have found that I physically can't wear these if it's above about 20F, as then my hands get too hot! (and this is coming from someone with a cold hands problem.)

They have enough dexterity to change a tube without taking them off.

Where can you find them?

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c....aspx?a=484005

Are these the same thing? Those are great prices! Btw, is the outer shell water proof?

It says the shell back is cotton, but one reviewer said he waterproofed them fine.

I lost one of my Snowboarding gloves and if these can be waterproofed then that would be great! I like having multipurpose things. Looks like waterproof sprays last about a year on tents and such. Given the small surface area, it might be cheap enough....

Yep, that's them. Snoseal because they are not waterproof.

Are the inner gloves made of wool or what material? Eg do they stay warm while wet?

"M1965 trigger finger mitt with wool inserts."

30 years ago, similar gloves kept me riding in -25F temps without issue. I lost those when I moved to more temperate areas, I'll have to get some new ones.

Too small for me dammit.

I called the seller and the two pack is the same item as the single.

The single includes one pair of outer shells and 4 pairs of liners: https://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c...mpaign=Primary

The two-pack includes two pairs of outer shells and 2 pairs of liners: https://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c...mpaign=Primary

Otherwise, it is the same item.

I wouldn't be so sure, the Small/Med is large and the Med/Large is cavernous. They are designed for you to be able to put your index and thumb together with the rest of your fingers if you get cold.

You can also find this same item, but with only one pair of shells and liners, for $15 shipped on ebay.

I take size XXL and have bought too many gloves which didn't fit, now i try before i buy.

I looked into these last year, but passed. After seeing them in person and trying them on I was pretty convinced that they wouldn't work for me. I can't remember why though...

Mine arrived yesterday. One used pair of shells and one new. The used pair seemed slightly smaller than the new ones. 100% wool liners fit perfectly in the new pair. Great bargain.

I'm a cell phone tower climber. In the winter, climbing on cold steel is a real problem. We wear thin underarmor gloves, under mountaneering gloves, under these mittens.
They help a lot. They are absolutely NOT waterproof. You'll have to use some sort of sealant.

If you need waterproof it can't be very cold out!

+1 I bought these several years sgo with great hope but at 0F they don't cut it.

The wool inserts are actually supposed to be used inside leather shells, which THEN go inside the canvas mitts.
But yeah, I always wear them over proper ECW gloves.

Thanks, thread

I picked these up today at an army/navy store.

Shell - $4
2 liners - $3/ea

Looking forward to seeing how Monday's commute is with 'em!! Supposed to be in the mid 30s. - they might be too warm!

I've ridden in these for a couple of weeks now. Coldest it's gotten is 27F and I have my doubts that they would be sufficient in anything significantly colder than that.

Yep, turns out that for me at least, I need something more when it is really cold. Tried twice when it was 16-18F and had popsicle fingers. And my commute is under 20 minutes. Not sure they are warmer than the ski gloves I have, which is what I hoped when I bought them.

I prefer mitts to gloves. Wouldn't be able to change a tube in them, but probably wouldn't do that anyway. I have a 6 mile commute and can push the bike home if needed.

Mitts are much more adaptable as the temperatures get colder. You can have better liners or even put another pair of mitts over the first one with liners. All your fingers and your thumb if you need to, can be in one ball in the mitt to warm up. There is less surface area to the mitts, so less heat loss.