20" Wheels Cargo Bike
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20" Wheels Cargo Bike
From ODK Longtail cargo bike.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ODK-Utility-...item1c23a8c2d6
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ODK-Utility-...item1c23a8c2d6
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Last year a buddy and I kludged together a Franken-cargo bike using a 20 inch rear wheel in order to keep the load platform nice and low. Made sense, but a brainfart in our scrap paper engineering left us having to mount the platform at almost 26 inches anyway. Looks like these guys had the same good idea, then screwed it up just like we did. Why don`t ALL cargo bikes have little wheels under whichever end the platform is on? Why do most little wheeled bikes have the rack so high above the wheel? And why don`t any commercial cargo bikes have granny gears?
Okay, rant over
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The Why is the panniers are made just so tall.. for 26,28" wheels..
Brompton has a low rear rack, but then no normal Panniers fit .
Brompton has a low rear rack, but then no normal Panniers fit .
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I like it, its a great idea.It looks cool and has a pretty good price.It would make a good taxi bike too, just bolt a nice cushion on the back and add some footpegs for passengers.
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Last year a buddy and I kludged together a Franken-cargo bike using a 20 inch rear wheel in order to keep the load platform nice and low. Made sense, but a brainfart in our scrap paper engineering left us having to mount the platform at almost 26 inches anyway. Looks like these guys had the same good idea, then screwed it up just like we did. Why don`t ALL cargo bikes have little wheels under whichever end the platform is on? Why do most little wheeled bikes have the rack so high above the wheel? And why don`t any commercial cargo bikes have granny gears?
Okay, rant over
Okay, rant over
To me, a 20" cargo bike does not really make sense as it is no longer compact. Besides, Xtracycle and a 26" bike makes a better combo. For cargo usage, I use a Burley Travoy trailer and I can tow anything, including another bike if I have to take into the shop for service.
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Several 20" cargo bikes has been posted the last few years both here and in the Utility forums. I posted a 20" minivelo converted to a extracycle here just a few days ago. https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...t=miniveloAlso 20" recumbents has been "extra- fitted".
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I agree with you about no longer being compact also, but bike length isn`t why 20 inch wheels interest me.
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I wouldn't trust a cargo bike based on a U frame. If you want to lug weight around you want an old shopper such as a Raleigh Twenty or Dawes Kingpin. Or If you're lucky enough to find one...
This is my 1966 Royal Enfield Revelation. It has been upgraded to SA XRD5(w) 5 speed with drum brake and elite VT front drum brake. The rear rack is a PDW aluminium rack cut down to fit. The long wheelbase makes it very stable and there is no way you could catch a pannier with your heel unless you're cycling in clown shoes. The front rack is one of the mini racks you can find on ebay with the rivets drilled out and bolted to a tubus mounting kit to attach to the forks.
I intend to do John O Groats to Lands end on this bike in a few weeks (about 900 miles).
This is my 1966 Royal Enfield Revelation. It has been upgraded to SA XRD5(w) 5 speed with drum brake and elite VT front drum brake. The rear rack is a PDW aluminium rack cut down to fit. The long wheelbase makes it very stable and there is no way you could catch a pannier with your heel unless you're cycling in clown shoes. The front rack is one of the mini racks you can find on ebay with the rivets drilled out and bolted to a tubus mounting kit to attach to the forks.
I intend to do John O Groats to Lands end on this bike in a few weeks (about 900 miles).
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He's pulling the load and not carrying it on the bike, but the u-frame works for him:
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...le-and-trailer
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...le-and-trailer
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It didn't seem to be a problem for https://www.madsencycles.com.
I believe this issue is just one more reflection of the blinkered thinking that seems to envelope many cyclists, as H/D smothers motorcycling.
If it isn't directly affecting one, it's sort of interesting to consider as a meta-concept.
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Hearsay sir! Conventional, perhaps; a convenient add-on package to a frame lying around, I agree; spendy, indeed. Better combo? Are there really a large enough number of similar products to compare to and make that statement? I say not.
Another point about a longer wheelbased bike that many df riders can't understand is the ride quality of a longer bike. It's more forgiving of road conditions. Not as smooth as a full suspension bike absolutely, but it is less harsh.
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As for no longer compact, I direct your attention to the Madsen competitor, Mike Burrows' 8-freight: https://8freight.com
Hot dog, I'm tickled to see this being produced again. I love seeing someone think outside the box.
Hot dog, I'm tickled to see this being produced again. I love seeing someone think outside the box.
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To me, a 20" cargo bike does not really make sense as it is no longer compact. Besides, Xtracycle and a 26" bike makes a better combo. For cargo usage, I use a Burley Travoy trailer and I can tow anything, including another bike if I have to take into the shop for service.
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This one I think has been posted here before.
https://www.adelineadeline.com/bicycles/wren-1.html
https://www.adelineadeline.com/bicycles/wren-1.html
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Well, since we're on the subject of 20 inch wheeled cargo bikes, here's one that is quite reasonably priced. It's not a "long tail" though.
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Well, since we're on the subject of 20 inch wheeled cargo bikes, here's one that is quite reasonably priced. It's not a "long tail" though.
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Are you using a regular Xtracycle longtail on a 20" bike?
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No, but other have done it and I am planning to do it later. The way it is now I built it like we do the homemade longtails posted in the sticky in the Utilitiforums. I use the rear triangle from a childrens 20" full suspension bike to extend it. I think this setup is slightly shorter than a regular xtra ekstension. The bike I use has quite a long wheelbase, much like the R20. Since it is detatchable I am in the process of building it so that also the gearwire to the Nexus7 hub is detatchable. Lost one part I needed and had to oreder a new one..
Edit: The bike has been painted with red Hammerlite paint since this picture
Edit: The bike has been painted with red Hammerlite paint since this picture
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Lovely Bicycle is writing about small wheel workhorses here:
https://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/...nd-bobbin.html
there are links to other bikes several places if you look carefully.
https://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/...nd-bobbin.html
there are links to other bikes several places if you look carefully.
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The E.B.S "Work" - Japanese 20" longtail
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