Bianchi Stelvio (B-089) 59cm
06-03-12, 11:05 AM
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Bianchi Stelvio (B-089) 59cm
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newb delux here be gently.
I picked this Bianchi off Craigslist from some guy who has a lot of high end bikes and apparently is quite the entrepreneur when it comes to restoring and flipping bikes.
It is a Stelvio, although not sure of the year because they all seem to have the same serial number, B-089.
Some unique features of the frame: the chainstay is chrome plated which is nice, and seems also unusual for this model, at least based on the older flyers I have seen.
It also came with a campy super record headset, that has a pretty chewed-up lock nut, and a sugino seat clamp.
These components don't seem to add up to the original componentry featured on the bike, super record seems too high end for this type of bianchi...please comment on this.
I bought it for $220, which I realize is a little much for this frame but it does have Columbus tubing and decent Bianchi's are hard to find in this city since most have already been snatched up by collectors.
I am hoping to get some suggestions on how to set it up. I have some campy super record cranks that I'd like to put on it. Although I was thinking of building a fixie since I already have a 5 speed bike, but not sure because this is not really a fixie frame.
Any suggestions on what I should use to complete this build for the summer?
newb delux here be gently.
I picked this Bianchi off Craigslist from some guy who has a lot of high end bikes and apparently is quite the entrepreneur when it comes to restoring and flipping bikes.
It is a Stelvio, although not sure of the year because they all seem to have the same serial number, B-089.
Some unique features of the frame: the chainstay is chrome plated which is nice, and seems also unusual for this model, at least based on the older flyers I have seen.
It also came with a campy super record headset, that has a pretty chewed-up lock nut, and a sugino seat clamp.
These components don't seem to add up to the original componentry featured on the bike, super record seems too high end for this type of bianchi...please comment on this.
I bought it for $220, which I realize is a little much for this frame but it does have Columbus tubing and decent Bianchi's are hard to find in this city since most have already been snatched up by collectors.
I am hoping to get some suggestions on how to set it up. I have some campy super record cranks that I'd like to put on it. Although I was thinking of building a fixie since I already have a 5 speed bike, but not sure because this is not really a fixie frame.
Any suggestions on what I should use to complete this build for the summer?
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06-03-12, 02:47 PM
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I sold one a couple of years ago and it did not have the chrome chain stay. Nice bike and you can read all about the 1985 version in this article> https://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/...one6001985.pdf
It came with Campagnolo Triomphe derailleurs and a Ofmega crank. Mavic Modeule E rims and Ofmega hubs. I would shoot higher up the scale IMO although the Module E rims were very nice looking. Here's the one I sold.
It came with Campagnolo Triomphe derailleurs and a Ofmega crank. Mavic Modeule E rims and Ofmega hubs. I would shoot higher up the scale IMO although the Module E rims were very nice looking. Here's the one I sold.
06-03-12, 02:59 PM
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Can you post some better pics? esp of the tubing decals. Where is this frame? Here in the US the Stelvio was a one year model in '85 and appears to have different tubing than this frame has.
Personally I would go with a Campi mix. If your brakes will fit the frame then go from there. Victory or Triomphe is usually a bit cheaper and easier to come by thena Nuovo or Super Rec and performs as well.
Personally I would go with a Campi mix. If your brakes will fit the frame then go from there. Victory or Triomphe is usually a bit cheaper and easier to come by thena Nuovo or Super Rec and performs as well.
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06-03-12, 05:32 PM
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Can you post some better pics? esp of the tubing decals. Where is this frame? Here in the US the Stelvio was a one year model in '85 and appears to have different tubing than this frame has.
Personally I would go with a Campi mix. If your brakes will fit the frame then go from there. Victory or Triomphe is usually a bit cheaper and easier to come by thena Nuovo or Super Rec and performs as well.
Personally I would go with a Campi mix. If your brakes will fit the frame then go from there. Victory or Triomphe is usually a bit cheaper and easier to come by thena Nuovo or Super Rec and performs as well.
Here are some close ups. Pardon my lack of skill as a photographer.
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06-03-12, 05:42 PM
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Pretty sure the one I had did not have Campagnolo dropouts, probably Gipiemme so maybe your frame is ?? Canadian. Fork crown is different as well.
06-03-12, 07:56 PM
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Until I believe '89 the Canadian market bikes were different that ours but I do believe you have something here just a step or two nicer than our Stelvio.
In '85 that tubing was used on 7 different models but only 3 of them had a chromed stay. So I think maybe you have something more along the lines of a Vittoria or a Campione De Italia (which was alot higher up in the lineup than in later years.)
Should be a great riding bike when built up.
In '85 that tubing was used on 7 different models but only 3 of them had a chromed stay. So I think maybe you have something more along the lines of a Vittoria or a Campione De Italia (which was alot higher up in the lineup than in later years.)
Should be a great riding bike when built up.
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06-03-12, 09:38 PM
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Hey, That is good news.
I'm going to build it up a quick as I can and post some pics.
First thing I need to do is find a bottom bracket...
The width of this bottom bracket shell is 70mm.
Another forum I was looking on said that many Bianchi's of this era tended to have shells suited for British bottom brackets and threading (68mm).
Given that this one seems to have and Italian bottom bracket shell might this help to clarify which model of Bianchi this is?
I'm going to build it up a quick as I can and post some pics.
First thing I need to do is find a bottom bracket...
The width of this bottom bracket shell is 70mm.
Another forum I was looking on said that many Bianchi's of this era tended to have shells suited for British bottom brackets and threading (68mm).
Given that this one seems to have and Italian bottom bracket shell might this help to clarify which model of Bianchi this is?
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06-04-12, 07:40 AM
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Until about '89 most all Italian built Bianchis had Italian BB shells. so this one most likely needs a Italian on with 36x24 threading and 70 width.
You need to figure out what crank your going to use then see if you can find a Italian BB for it.
You need to figure out what crank your going to use then see if you can find a Italian BB for it.
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06-04-12, 07:45 AM
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This is a really clean, nice looking frame. I like it. You'll have fun building it up.
06-04-12, 10:06 AM
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@Bianchigirl - I've got a set of campy super records that I'm gonna put on. Looking on ebay for a bottom bracket now but they are pricey. Might check out the local shops to see if they have one for cheaper. My other bike has super record cranks with a sugino bb so I might have to settle for that.
@ bikemig - the frame is pretty clean, although there are a lot more scratches on it than what my photos show. The underside of the top tube is pretty scratched up for some reason...
@ bikemig - the frame is pretty clean, although there are a lot more scratches on it than what my photos show. The underside of the top tube is pretty scratched up for some reason...
06-05-12, 07:37 PM
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Hi, Can anyone help me figure out what size hubs to get.
I am looking at several pairs of super record hubs with 36 holes but the spacing varies from set to set.
It looks like the spacing on my dropouts is about 128mm from inside to inside.
Do I need a set that matches up exactly? Or could I get a set that say for example, the sapcing is 125mm?
I'm not really clear on the logic of the sizes and how to choose the right set.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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I am looking at several pairs of super record hubs with 36 holes but the spacing varies from set to set.
It looks like the spacing on my dropouts is about 128mm from inside to inside.
Do I need a set that matches up exactly? Or could I get a set that say for example, the sapcing is 125mm?
I'm not really clear on the logic of the sizes and how to choose the right set.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
CW
06-05-12, 09:15 PM
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No they do not have to match exactly, that bike was likely intended for 126 spacing. It is possible some coldset it to 128 to facilitate the use of 126 and 130mm wheels/hubs.
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06-06-12, 02:00 AM
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Hubs
High flange?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/350563765179...84.m1438.l2649
Low flange?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/320907780656...84.m1438.l2649
The high flange are a little pricey...
06-07-12, 09:58 PM
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Btw, what does 'cold set' mean. I've seen this term used a few times. Sorry for so many questions. I'm really curious.
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There is a ton of info on cold setting. I have not done it. 126 to 130mm = 2mm on each side. I just pop the 130mm wheel in there, no problem. Have you considered putting more modern components on the frame? A wheel with 8 or 9 speed cassette? The hubs you linked on ebay will cost more than a wheelset and then you need spokes and rims. I find great wheels on CL for cheap quite often. Just an idea.
Sorry. I couldn't resist> https://lmgtfy.com/?q=cold+set+site%3Abikeforums.net
Sorry. I couldn't resist> https://lmgtfy.com/?q=cold+set+site%3Abikeforums.net
06-08-12, 05:30 PM
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@tmh657 - I was expecting that, and I guess I deserved it. Ask a stupid question...
I like the way that you set up your bike. I might do something similar. Did you use Triomphe hubs on that set up?
Thanks for your help.
CW
I like the way that you set up your bike. I might do something similar. Did you use Triomphe hubs on that set up?
Thanks for your help.
CW
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Not a stupid question and you probably didn't deserve it, I just enjoy the LMGTFY. I ask questions all the time. The mechanics section is great.
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Hello Crescentwrench, I was looking for your seat post size and discovered your post. Here is a link to my previous post about this frame. If anyone can tell you the correct seat post size, it will be Bianchigirll.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ianchi+Stelvio
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ianchi+Stelvio
06-23-12, 01:57 PM
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Hey! My guess is that its most likely 27.2 but I am just gonna take it into a bike shop and get them to measure to be sure.
So far, I've got SR cranks, Victory brakes, Victory bubs, Victory shifters, and an SR front derailleur. Still trying to find a good rear derailleur, haven't decide if I'll do the Victory group.
I've also got some old Cinelli CDM bars. Once I get all the parts I'll post some pics.
For the wheels I'll most likely use some Mavic open pro rims but would love to find some good campy clinchers.
CW
So far, I've got SR cranks, Victory brakes, Victory bubs, Victory shifters, and an SR front derailleur. Still trying to find a good rear derailleur, haven't decide if I'll do the Victory group.
I've also got some old Cinelli CDM bars. Once I get all the parts I'll post some pics.
For the wheels I'll most likely use some Mavic open pro rims but would love to find some good campy clinchers.
CW
07-13-12, 12:59 AM
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The photo shows the current status of the Bianchi build - I still haven't figured out exactly what kind of Bianchi it is but I am looking forward to building this up and going for a ride.
The bike will consist of the following:
Campy SR headset
Cinelli stem
Cinelli CDM bars
Campy SR crankset 170mm
Campy Victory front and rear derailleurs
Campy Triomphe brake levers and calipers
Campy Victory hubs
Campy aero seatpost (I don't know how to tell what group the post is but its 27.2mm!)
MKS pedals
I have only ONE Campagnolo Mexico 68 rim.
Interestingly enough I started a bicycle mechanic course this week and when I walked into the classroom there was hanging on the wall another Mexico 68 laced to a Victory hub...
Its a good sign!
Any suggestions on the type of cassette I should use???
Everything is coming together very nicely.
CW
The bike will consist of the following:
Campy SR headset
Cinelli stem
Cinelli CDM bars
Campy SR crankset 170mm
Campy Victory front and rear derailleurs
Campy Triomphe brake levers and calipers
Campy Victory hubs
Campy aero seatpost (I don't know how to tell what group the post is but its 27.2mm!)
MKS pedals
I have only ONE Campagnolo Mexico 68 rim.
Interestingly enough I started a bicycle mechanic course this week and when I walked into the classroom there was hanging on the wall another Mexico 68 laced to a Victory hub...
Its a good sign!
Any suggestions on the type of cassette I should use???
Everything is coming together very nicely.
CW
07-13-12, 04:40 PM
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Cassette? or Freewheel? For a freewheel I would recomend something comapatible with your other road bikes. If you have a bike with shimano 6 or 7 spd index go with that. Suntour index go that way. Friction you could use anything you want, but I would still recomend spacing the hub so the wheel is compatible with your other bikes.
I think that is a late '80s early '90s Chours/Athena seatpost which was pretty much the same as a Vic/Tri
I think that is a late '80s early '90s Chours/Athena seatpost which was pretty much the same as a Vic/Tri
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07-14-12, 07:05 PM
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Hmm Thanks B,
Why do you recommend making it compatible with other bikes?
What I've got in the picture is actually a campy 6 speed cassette although I don't think I'll use it on this bike. It's alloy, and has British threads so not ideal for the Italian threaded hub.
I've got a Regina 6 speed (cx/cxs), or a Dura-Ace 5 speed as well.
Why do you recommend making it compatible with other bikes?
What I've got in the picture is actually a campy 6 speed cassette although I don't think I'll use it on this bike. It's alloy, and has British threads so not ideal for the Italian threaded hub.
I've got a Regina 6 speed (cx/cxs), or a Dura-Ace 5 speed as well.
07-15-12, 07:40 AM
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I like to have as many bikes as possible have the rear wheels compatible because if I have a bike on the porch ready to ride and something is wrong witht he wheel I can easily swap it out. I have 7 or 8 bikes that have shimano 7spd cassette rear wheels and two spare wheels. Most of my other bikes have Campi 8/9spd comaptible wheels or are setup for Suntour.
You have a 6spd Campi FREEWHEEL not a cassette. A freewheel is the cogs and freewheeling mechanism combined into one unit that threads onto a hub.
check this page. https://sheldonbrown.com/free-k7.html
A cassette is a collection of cogs that slide onto a freewheeling mechanism peranantly attached to a hub.
You have a 6spd Campi FREEWHEEL not a cassette. A freewheel is the cogs and freewheeling mechanism combined into one unit that threads onto a hub.
check this page. https://sheldonbrown.com/free-k7.html
A cassette is a collection of cogs that slide onto a freewheeling mechanism peranantly attached to a hub.
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Hey CW, just stumbled onto this thread. I am definitely looking forward to your completed build - it should be a very nice riding, and nice looking bike!