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"track geometry but with 26x2.5 tires..."

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Old 02-29-08 | 12:44 PM
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"track geometry but with 26x2.5 tires..."

"... for going wild offroad or just over potholes"



look at that saddle to bar drop (and an integrated seatpost!)! going WILD offroad with that?!
and he's got a custom bottom bracket and titanium crankset.

this bike is absolutely insane! it's like a pugsley, but so much cooler!
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Old 02-29-08 | 12:49 PM
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whaaaat!? put some risers on there and i love.
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Old 02-29-08 | 01:00 PM
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Old 02-29-08 | 01:03 PM
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look at that fixed saddle height! That is his bike only.
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Old 02-29-08 | 01:12 PM
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What the... trying to objectively figure out what a good use for this is... Seems super limiting.

I'm sorry but you can't do "going wild off road or just over potholes" with a fixed seat height. You are going to get the worst of both worlds.
 
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Old 02-29-08 | 01:17 PM
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i know that you are going to want to be able to change saddle height to account for varying riding terrain, but is it so hard to believe that he's carefully considered how long the seatpost needs to be in order to achieve a saddle height that can be tolerable in most conditions? the only thing that bothers me is the absurd amount of saddle to bar drop, but that's a relatively easy fix.
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Old 02-29-08 | 01:58 PM
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i know that you are going to want to be able to change saddle height to account for varying riding terrain, but is it so hard to believe that he's carefully considered how long the seatpost needs to be in order to achieve a saddle height that can be tolerable in most conditions?
Yes it is possible, but why? I don't see it saving weight, making for a better ride, increasing performance in anyway. I do see it making it harder for the whole saddle to be stolen unless you have a allen wrench but other then that it looks like a hinderance.

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the only thing that bothers me is the absurd amount of saddle to bar drop, but that's a relatively easy fix.
Ya the geometry + seat height wouldn't work for my body at all. I ride my fixed road bike on mild off road stuff a lot but the way this bike is setup I would end up face in dirt in a matter of seconds.

Another strange thing. Am I looking at it correctly. No bar tape or grips? Doesn't sound like a very comfortable off road ride to me at all unless he is wearing gloves and even still, I could do with more padding.

A really cool concept and pretty build, but unless I am missing something this bike is fashion over function in almost every way. I honestly really want to like this bike, I do, I want to look at it and go "whoa.. cool idea, looks great and wow gives you cool benefits" but I don't see a single benefit to this bike other then making some hipster chick all hot and bothered when you ride past. On second thought.. where can I get one?

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Old 02-29-08 | 02:00 PM
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i don't really have a good answer to that to be honest, maybe it was easier/cheaper to build that way, as this thing is definitely a custom/one off kind of thing. might affect the feel of things somehow, though i'm not sure if it'd be for the better or worse.
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:10 PM
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Ya, I am just trying to objectively look at this and see what the reasoning behind the choices in the build are. One thing that happens a lot around these parts are people doing weird stuff "just to be different" which is silly and then when you say "well what is the reason for that" they get defensive and say things like "you dont like change man, your so old hat. lame!". I just prefer looking at builds critically. Its fun
 
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oh definitely. i'd love for somebody to come up with a great reason for doing things that way that may have evaded us. but if somethings just a bad idea, well, it's a bad idea.
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:14 PM
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Unfortunately I am starting to think this bike is just made by a good fashion photographer with a bad idea.
 
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:15 PM
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:19 PM
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I have to say it kind of looks idiotic with drops that deep but at the same time it looks like it would shred all those loose packed sandy trails in the Presidio and Golden Gate Park that eat my 700x23s. At the finish line in Snelling I saw another spectator who had converted his Merlin Extralight into a singlespeed cruiser. It had big fat tires, front basket and fenders. I can't deny I didn't want to ride over some mooseheads and slide through some gravel on that goofy machine.
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NitroPye
Unfortunately I am starting to think this bike is just made by a good fashion photographer with a bad idea.
i just wanted to believe man, i just wanted to believe!




i still think it's kinda cool
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:25 PM
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You know, if you just look at the bottom half the bike it looks fun as hell.
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:30 PM
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I'd ride the hell out of it with no shame.
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:36 PM
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I'd ride the hell out of it with no shame.
I'd have to take a hacksaw to the ST first but then I'd do the same.
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:43 PM
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I think that bike is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time (saddle to bar drop aside)...
And I would definitely ride that thing into the ground with a different bar setup
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:51 PM
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definition of "custom"?

also, I'd like to see skids on 40 psi 2.5" tires.
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:55 PM
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Excellent execution on a misguided idea.
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Old 02-29-08 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lbthomps
I think that bike is the coolest thing I have seen in a long time (saddle to bar drop aside)...
And I would definitely ride that thing into the ground with a different bar setup
I seem to recall we all loved his other titanium MTB w/ huge saddle to bar drop and fatty slicks....

https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006/jan/K_2.htm

i doubt he'd have built a custom bike just like the first one if it didn't fit him properly.

very different and clean.
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Old 02-29-08 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by *new*guy
I seem to recall we all loved his other titanium MTB w/ huge saddle to bar drop and fatty slicks....

https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006/jan/K_2.htm

i doubt he'd have built a custom bike just like the first one if it didn't fit him properly.

very different and clean.
What frame is that? I want.
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Old 02-29-08 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
What frame is that? I want.
i dunno... i think there's some discussion of it in the pictures thread though finding it would be a bit challenging
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Old 02-29-08 | 03:33 PM
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I think both this guy's bikes are ugly with the bars set up like that. To me, deep drop on a bike not carefully set up for time trialing says jackass.
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Old 02-29-08 | 03:43 PM
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this bike is absolutely insane! it's like a pugsley, but so much cooler!
Different strokes.... I would take a pug any day over that thing (although I do think it is neat). Comapring it to a pug is blasphemy!
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