redux Belt Drive Thread: Jherico bikes.
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redux Belt Drive Thread: Jherico bikes.
For 4ucksake people, let's get some tech on these boards. Here is my contribution:

Benefits: No lubrication, quieter than yours, belt lighter than equivalent length of chain
Cons: Drivewheel/cog are potential boat anchors, not NJS

Benefits: No lubrication, quieter than yours, belt lighter than equivalent length of chain
Cons: Drivewheel/cog are potential boat anchors, not NJS
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can you skid?
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Originally Posted by dmotoguy
can you skid?
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Originally Posted by thebankman
I think it could be a good thing. But it's as technically advanced as a Harley Davidson.
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Looks like it could slip pretty easily, so I'd guess no on the skids.
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Originally Posted by fatbat
Do you get rocks/crud/sticks stuck under the belt? Seems like this would happen really easily.
Like many other drive choices, it has it's pros and cons. If you look at drive systems for camshafts in modern vehicles, you'll see application of both belt and chain driven systems. The service interval on a belt system would be significantly shorter, that's the first thing that comes to mind. This is true in vehicles, and I'd expect the UV / environmental contribution on a bike to exaggerate this.
I didn't know it was in use on MTB setups. How do people like it?
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Originally Posted by el twe
Looks like it could slip pretty easily, so I'd guess no on the skids.
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If I had to guess, I'd say really the only reason you don't see more of this is that the chain is such an established drive system due to necessity on geared bikes. While this system would likely work as well (if not better in some aspects) for single speed, a 10 gear rear cassette might look a little... plump?
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how do you get the belt on? You can't break a car belt, you slip it on the gears and then tension it. Bikes use chains because you can break a chain and put it through the rear triangle. Or are these breakable belts?
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Originally Posted by bryanp
how do you get the belt on? You can't break a car belt, you slip it on the gears and then tension it. Bikes use chains because you can break a chain and put it through the rear triangle. Or are these breakable belts?
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Originally Posted by bryanp
how do you get the belt on? You can't break a car belt, you slip it on the gears and then tension it. Bikes use chains because you can break a chain and put it through the rear triangle. Or are these breakable belts?

So, to answer your question, I have no idea.
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Originally Posted by bryanp
how do you get the belt on? You can't break a car belt, you slip it on the gears and then tension it. Bikes use chains because you can break a chain and put it through the rear triangle. Or are these breakable belts?
People said they had slippage issues just pedaling a SS, skidding/skipping puts more pressure than that..
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Originally Posted by AfterThisNap
Cons: Drivewheel/cog are potential boat anchors, not NJS
VERY susceptible to vandalism (i.e. some jerk with a broken bottle can cut it).
Won't leave stylish holes in pant legs (maybe).
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Belt drive systems are far from high tech. They've been around about as long as the roller chain. They are used on motorcycles, but roller chains are still the more popular choice.
Pros are lover maintenance, belt drive systems on motorcycles don't need periodic lubrication, and they don't need tightening as frequently.
Cons: I think they are also less durable, and are of course impossible to repair. I believe they also have more friction than a properly lubricated and adjusted roller chain, but I might be wrong about that one.
Pros are lover maintenance, belt drive systems on motorcycles don't need periodic lubrication, and they don't need tightening as frequently.
Cons: I think they are also less durable, and are of course impossible to repair. I believe they also have more friction than a properly lubricated and adjusted roller chain, but I might be wrong about that one.
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Originally Posted by dmotoguy
the jerico has a chianstay? that you can pull apart.
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Originally Posted by Nims
I'm going to disagree with this. Properly tensioned, a tooth belt drive in this application would be no more likely to slip than a chain drive. As I said previously, they use them on timing belts so...


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Originally Posted by Retem
sorry to disagree but my auto-cross car used to slip the timing belt under hard acceleration it was due t too much torque on the little rubber teeth
I've spent years in autox, prosolo, rallyx, hillclimb, etc. etc. I've never had any timing belt slip.
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this is nothing new. the jerico belt derive system came out a couple years back. it was called the "red october" system.
it was only available in a 2:1 ratio. (mtb offroad)
it/jerico failed for many reasons, mainly beacuse of the nuerotic owner of jerico bikes driving the company into the ground for untold reasons. i'm not sure if jerico is back up and running, i've kinda fell off the mtb hype circuit.
and all belt driven bikes are fatally flawed from the beginning: efficiency.
i used to own a jerico bike. it was the best mtb bike i've ever ridden.
it was only available in a 2:1 ratio. (mtb offroad)
it/jerico failed for many reasons, mainly beacuse of the nuerotic owner of jerico bikes driving the company into the ground for untold reasons. i'm not sure if jerico is back up and running, i've kinda fell off the mtb hype circuit.
and all belt driven bikes are fatally flawed from the beginning: efficiency.
i used to own a jerico bike. it was the best mtb bike i've ever ridden.
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Originally Posted by dmotoguy
the jerico has a chianstay? that you can pull apart.
People said they had slippage issues just pedaling a SS, skidding/skipping puts more pressure than that..
People said they had slippage issues just pedaling a SS, skidding/skipping puts more pressure than that..




