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As little as possible. I know you are the self-dependent type, so it may be hard for you to do this, but you need to do an honest evaluation of all of your gear that you would normally carry with you on a ride and remove everything you aren't likely to need. Take a tube and CO2 or a small pump in a small bag, or in your jersey pocket if you can. Remove all other racks, bags, fenders, lights (and associated mounts), etc. If you know someone with a lighter wheelset, you may want to ask to borrow it.
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It's my natural instinct to bring a large trunk bag full of stuff ... but I will try to pare down for this one.
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I agree, leave as much stuff behind as possible. You want yourself and your bike to be light.
If the organizers have a clothing car taking clothes to the top of the climb (it's common in climbing races around here) bring a spare jacket and gloves (or more if its going to be cold) and a plastic bag to put them in, so you can leave the clothing in the car. That way you have warm gear for the descent without having to carry it up. If there isn't a clothing drop then bring the lightest jacket you have.
If there is going to be support at the top with water, bring just enough water for the climb. Water's heavy.
Plan your water and food based on time not distance, otherwise you'll end up short.
If the organizers have a clothing car taking clothes to the top of the climb (it's common in climbing races around here) bring a spare jacket and gloves (or more if its going to be cold) and a plastic bag to put them in, so you can leave the clothing in the car. That way you have warm gear for the descent without having to carry it up. If there isn't a clothing drop then bring the lightest jacket you have.
If there is going to be support at the top with water, bring just enough water for the climb. Water's heavy.
Plan your water and food based on time not distance, otherwise you'll end up short.
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According to the online info, the ride is unsupported, and I doubt there would be water at the top.
Good idea about calculating based on time.
Good idea about calculating based on time.
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As someone who's struggled with knee problems, I'd also recommend even simple knee warmers, to buttress the jacket/glove suggestions.
On a long descent, your knees and legs could stiffen up a lot if you're spinning consistently down it. With wildlife still out there and what you've indicated will be moderate downhill speeds, something to protect the knees might be worth it too.
On a long descent, your knees and legs could stiffen up a lot if you're spinning consistently down it. With wildlife still out there and what you've indicated will be moderate downhill speeds, something to protect the knees might be worth it too.
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For out and back climbs, I carry enough water to drink on the way up and to have a good long drink at the top. Never need any on the way back down. I also usually drink a full liter or more right before starting, to supplement what I carry. That way, I don't need to start hitting my water bottles until about 10k into the climb.
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For out and back climbs, I carry enough water to drink on the way up and to have a good long drink at the top. Never need any on the way back down. I also usually drink a full liter or more right before starting, to supplement what I carry. That way, I don't need to start hitting my water bottles until about 10k into the climb.
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edit: I meant "absorb," not "avoid" above. I have a rotten summer cold and my head is just not clear...
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That can be an issue, but usually isn't if I get the liter down while getting my bike and gear together, instead of chugging it. Also, I use a weak Heed mix for it and I seem to avoid it faster. I do this when I don't want to carry a Camelbak. Already have two tall bottles full on the bike for most climbs.
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Let's keep this in perspective; this is the same length as most people's average weekend ride. The trip up should be between 1.5-3 hours of spinning depending on your engine. Bring a little food for the top and some water/HEED for the climb. For the descent, I'd carry a wind vest and arm warmers. Of course, you'll have the typical tube/pump/patchkit/levers stuff, but that sorta goes without saying.
Since you are driving to the climb, I'd throw a heavier jacket and tights in the car just in case the weather looks like it is going to puke on you. If it looks nice out, go with just the vest and arm warmers.
Since you are driving to the climb, I'd throw a heavier jacket and tights in the car just in case the weather looks like it is going to puke on you. If it looks nice out, go with just the vest and arm warmers.
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I know it's a relatively short distance overall. I just haven't climbed for that length of time (or distance) before. I have, however, ridden into strong headwinds for that and more!
I ride at about 20 km/h on flat ground, climbing I'll be down to somewhere between 8-12 km/h depending on the grade ... so we're looking at about 4 hours up.
I ride at about 20 km/h on flat ground, climbing I'll be down to somewhere between 8-12 km/h depending on the grade ... so we're looking at about 4 hours up.
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I know it's a relatively short distance overall. I just haven't climbed for that length of time (or distance) before. I have, however, ridden into strong headwinds for that and more!
I ride at about 20 km/h on flat ground, climbing I'll be down to somewhere between 8-12 km/h depending on the grade ... so we're looking at about 4 hours up.
I ride at about 20 km/h on flat ground, climbing I'll be down to somewhere between 8-12 km/h depending on the grade ... so we're looking at about 4 hours up.
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Heart rate monitor. If the goal is to ride it fast, peg your HR on the way up at just below your LTHR and keep it there for the next hour and a half.
Beyond that 1 tube, 1 C02 cartridge, tire irons, Arm warmers, vest (or snag a newspaper at the top) one large bottle, and 2 gel packs.
Beyond that 1 tube, 1 C02 cartridge, tire irons, Arm warmers, vest (or snag a newspaper at the top) one large bottle, and 2 gel packs.
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Now there's an idea ... the last time I used my HRM, it wasn't working. I'll have to dig it out and check it again, I may need to replace the batteries.
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New Decision ...
I can do the 75 km Highwood Pass ride with the club, like I was planning ........
OR
A 180 km ride on the same day over the Highwood Pass, down the other side and around!!!
One possible difficulty with both rides, but possibly more with the longer ride ...
I have just been diagnosed with a syndrome where the joints connecting my rib cage to my sternum are inflammed. While it isn't serious, it is very painful, and constricts my breathing.
So ... would you stick with the short ride or go for the longer one?
I can do the 75 km Highwood Pass ride with the club, like I was planning ........
OR
A 180 km ride on the same day over the Highwood Pass, down the other side and around!!!
One possible difficulty with both rides, but possibly more with the longer ride ...
I have just been diagnosed with a syndrome where the joints connecting my rib cage to my sternum are inflammed. While it isn't serious, it is very painful, and constricts my breathing.
So ... would you stick with the short ride or go for the longer one?
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Well .... neither ride is going to happen. I'm very disappointed!!
They are being cancelled because the bottom of the climb has had 1.5 feet of snow, and the snow plows are working their way up. The plows will still be on the road on Saturday.
1.5 feet of snow ..... in JUNE!!!
They are being cancelled because the bottom of the climb has had 1.5 feet of snow, and the snow plows are working their way up. The plows will still be on the road on Saturday.
1.5 feet of snow ..... in JUNE!!!
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Summer is not coming to the mountains this year. We had one hot day in Colorado this week and it has been cold and windy since. I think we had snow up high last week too.
Sorry you are missing your ride. Since it was unsupported, it seems like you could do it on your own at a later time though.
Sorry you are missing your ride. Since it was unsupported, it seems like you could do it on your own at a later time though.
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Summer is not coming to the mountains this year. We had one hot day in Colorado this week and it has been cold and windy since. I think we had snow up high last week too.
Sorry you are missing your ride. Since it was unsupported, it seems like you could do it on your own at a later time though.
Sorry you are missing your ride. Since it was unsupported, it seems like you could do it on your own at a later time though.
But yes, I may do it on my own ... or the organizers are dropping hints that they might run it again a little later. I'll watch their website.
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Well .... neither ride is going to happen. I'm very disappointed!!
They are being cancelled because the bottom of the climb has had 1.5 feet of snow, and the snow plows are working their way up. The plows will still be on the road on Saturday.
1.5 feet of snow ..... in JUNE!!!
They are being cancelled because the bottom of the climb has had 1.5 feet of snow, and the snow plows are working their way up. The plows will still be on the road on Saturday.
1.5 feet of snow ..... in JUNE!!!
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The least possible!! Seriously. No need for extra gear you won't likely need. Lighten up the bike to a bare minimum. Bring some arm warmers and some light full finger gloves depending on the weather near the top. A cap under the helmet might be nice from the start, but not much else unless you are one to get cold easily. Then, a light jacket or wind vest maybe. One large bottle of fluid should be enough. No need for food and such (a gel packet a most?). Something to fix a flat and that is it I guess.
Best of luck and let us know how it went later on.
Best of luck and let us know how it went later on.
on the 400k i only had a seat-bag on the bike, and stuffed everything else in jersey pockets, including all my tools/food/etc, and i didn't miss anything that i usually carry (the kitchen sink stuffed in a carradice bag).
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Hey Machka, what road # is Highwood Pass? If it's what I think it is (rt23 541 to Rte 40) I'll be riding it in early August, on my loaded tour bike, so you can have company for a re-do, if you want. But you'll have to wait for me, since I climb at 3.5 mph on that beast.
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Yeah, the snow thing is just not right.
I've signed up for the Tour de Wyoming, and it has 10,000 ft. of climb on a 47 mile route on one day. I'm nervous about it having never done any climbing of that sort. This is Botto's kind of climb!
Hey, Botto, loan me your quads for a day?
I've heard the tour of Colorado is similar, and that they often get hail and snow during the ride which takes place in July.
Ain't right. Just ain't right.
Don't be disappointed; just time to find another ride. Good luck.
I've signed up for the Tour de Wyoming, and it has 10,000 ft. of climb on a 47 mile route on one day. I'm nervous about it having never done any climbing of that sort. This is Botto's kind of climb!
Hey, Botto, loan me your quads for a day?
I've heard the tour of Colorado is similar, and that they often get hail and snow during the ride which takes place in July.
Ain't right. Just ain't right.
Don't be disappointed; just time to find another ride. Good luck.
Well .... neither ride is going to happen. I'm very disappointed!!
They are being cancelled because the bottom of the climb has had 1.5 feet of snow, and the snow plows are working their way up. The plows will still be on the road on Saturday.
1.5 feet of snow ..... in JUNE!!!
They are being cancelled because the bottom of the climb has had 1.5 feet of snow, and the snow plows are working their way up. The plows will still be on the road on Saturday.
1.5 feet of snow ..... in JUNE!!!