ltokuno

I think the tension adjusters models were later. In the catalog pic you can see the axle has only two wrench flats where as the variable tension pedals have 6 wrench flats on the axle. The earlier campy/look pedals had campy axles and bearings with the two flats. Later they just rebranded the Look pedals without using campy parts. I think these in the picture are rebranded Look 286 Multitensor's.

botty kayer

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I've got a set of the slightly more curvy ones, that also use Delta cleats, that I assume are later?


And these ones have stamp of ignominy that admits Campag had gone the wrong route with their SGR pedals, which seemed to win on being shinier, but were otherwise over complicated, harder to clip into, significantly heavier and more expensive than Look's version. I imagine Campagnolo engineers reacting like vampires do to sunlight upon seeing this mark...

repechage

Campagnolo in the Tullio era made components in France. The EU did not always exist, protectionism.

ltokuno

Those look like rebranded Look 136's. That would place them after the first gen in the catalog pic. I think these were marketed as Chorus or lower. No tensioner and no arc adjustment.

I think SGR came later.

El Chaba

Just to add to the photo content a bit, this Denti is equipped (primarily) with 1992 era 8 speed Campagnolo Record. Not visible in a photo is the fact that the shifters and rear derailleur have been modified/converted to 9 speed to simplify the wheel swapping situation at Casa El Chaba. The wheels also have slightly newer Athena hubs as the bike is sporting “winter” wheels.

Robvolz 

stunning ride.

Does she have a name? Ladybug?

El Chaba

Thank you. No name, but it has been a great bike. I rode it today for the first time in quite a while and so was thinking about our history together. I bought it back in 1987 and was heavily into racing and it became my primary machine for that purpose. One other item about the original Campagnolo Ergopower shifters ( as on this bike) …..I think a very undersold feature of these levers-almost never mentioned, even in advertising- was the adjustable reach of the brake levers. There is a small grub screw between the quick release button and the lever body that can be turned in or out to get the reach that you desired…or need…They were definitely quite different from the plastic bodied Ergopower levers that followed.

uncleivan 

Where there's a will, there is a way. The lack of a front derailleur braze on helps, though this was the intent when it was built. The frameset is from 1991/92 and built with tange prestige.

uncleivan 

Sorry nlerner for the pics.

P!N20

Which bit? I'm in Melbourne. There appears to be a fair bit of interest in C&V here, but due to lack of retro events it's kind of hidden under the surface.

P!N20

Delayed response, but yes that's correct.

P!N20

Not gonna lie, I've been using first gen Ergo levers for years and didn't know this!

Drillium Dude 

It's much easier to make out the little black set screws when set off against the bare alloy of a stripped pair of Ergo bodies:



Of course, they are hidden in normal use by the QR button jutting out from the side of the lever.

DD

jamesdak 

I got this 8 Speed groupset in today. Listed as Athena but someone said it was C-Record. I keep getting distracted every time I think for a second about figuring what it really is. This may go on a Gianni Motta frame I have coming in.

Roger M 

James, the crankset is C-Record. The rest looks like some variation of 8 speed. Just my opinion.

C9H13N 

1994 Record. The carbon body Ergos, ramped chainring, and dual pivot brakes were all new that year. In ‘95 everything got printed groupset names. IMO 1994 was the high point for Campy aesthetics in the Ergo era, it’s been downhill since.

outstanding pickup!

jamesdak 

Yep, that's what I'm seeing as I finally look into it at DISRAELI. Thanks for the comments and confirmation. Now to make sure it get's onto the "right" frame!

jamesdak 

So, even though this came with a Chorus 102 spindle BB this crankset actually requires a 111 spindle, correct?

Andrew_G 

As mentioned above, you have a 1994 Record crankset FC-11RE. The 1994 bottom bracket required (cartridge) is BB11-RECART or BB13-RECART (depends on the threading).

I recall that the 1994 spindle length was 111mm, but I'm not certain.

The 102mm spindle is definitely too short. The 102 spindle is suitable for the 1995 - 2006 cranks.

Andrew G.

Seanaus

Late reply on the pedals, both are Record. First are 1992 to 1994, the second (with the adjuster) 1995 up (to what year I don't know)

DCU1984

Are you still having success with this setup? I just bought a 13-28 Miche cassette and will install it next wee. Any tips?

Roger M 

PM replied to

Erzulis Boat 

I have a perfect entire 8 speed titanium rear hub (32H). I got many years ago new from some obscure bike shop (for a song). Kind of backwards from your story, now it needs a titanium cassette. Titanium axle and all (labeled Campagnolo Titanium on the ends)
I built it up with a Mavic GP4 rim, then realized the splines were "funny". It collected dust for a little while, so I de-laced it, and put it in the stash.
If I would have known you were looking, I would have let it go decades ago.

styggno1

SurferRosa

I have two 1990/1991 Record rear derailleurs, and they look very similar to that one, but not exact. Similar cable adjuster. Same hanger bolt. They use an old school hex nut for the cable anchor. The wheels have like 14 ball bearings each. Your faceplate appears more curved than mine. And the inner cage plate is different, with mine having no tab for chain routing. Here is one of them:



The limit screws in the '90/'91 Record are different lengths, with the high limit being shorter. Still, the low limit isn't long enough to use with 7-speed friction, so I had to use one from an old Suntour mech.

Cage tension is adjusted from the outside, with the screw highlighted here: