Longevity and compression of morbidity
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So, what actually are we supposed to be compressing? Morbidity? Morality? Mortality?
Nevermind, I'm going for a ride and compress my butt bones.
Nevermind, I'm going for a ride and compress my butt bones.
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I swear as I get older and closer to death I will not, never, EVER start grasping at straws. Nor will I get sucked into the drug thing or all this Internet Bully sit on getting old.
There are landmines in life, cancer, drinking, drugs, getting fat, bad family genes or skydiving or riding a bull named Fu Manchu,, Matters not but If you step on a landmine your life will be shorter.
Eat right, live right, be happy and ride your bike because I got breaking news ! We, ALL of us WILL die and I will not spend one second scared of it or thinking about it....
My brother Is scared to death of dying, It dominates his days, He lives In fear of it, I don't pity him or feel sorry for him. I got a list of his TEN, 10 medications and took them to a professional in the field... He should be dead any day now...
If he would simply drop 7 of those deadly med's he'd live another 20 years....
I'm gonna go watch TV and eat some Ice Cream, a big bowl of chocolate Ice Cream.
There are landmines in life, cancer, drinking, drugs, getting fat, bad family genes or skydiving or riding a bull named Fu Manchu,, Matters not but If you step on a landmine your life will be shorter.
Eat right, live right, be happy and ride your bike because I got breaking news ! We, ALL of us WILL die and I will not spend one second scared of it or thinking about it....
My brother Is scared to death of dying, It dominates his days, He lives In fear of it, I don't pity him or feel sorry for him. I got a list of his TEN, 10 medications and took them to a professional in the field... He should be dead any day now...
If he would simply drop 7 of those deadly med's he'd live another 20 years....
I'm gonna go watch TV and eat some Ice Cream, a big bowl of chocolate Ice Cream.
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Not being a neuroscientist, I don't really know. However how the brain works is what they study, and our view of ourselves is part of that. Have you read Oliver Sacks? If not, you might enjoy him.
Our moralities descend from how we see the world and our place in it. They are all artificial constructs which hopefully aid the human community, though obviously many times they are in conflict with that goal. Social evolution is a scientifically valid concept. It's much faster than the biological form, though not a heck of a lot. It's possible that the two forms interact.
The older we get, the more our bodies change. Some of these changes allow older people to use fewer calories to sustain themselves than younger people use. This may be an adaptation to allow older members of the community to survive longer and thus pass on their valuable experience. The location of water holes is just a small part of it. So no, in my view we do not have a duty to die when we can't "work" any longer. In fact, the whole concept of "work" is a slightly bizarre moral construct, probably foisted upon us by those who wish to profit from it. We have a duty to survive. Our genes cry out the truth of this to us. No one wants to die. We all want to live. This is a good thing for the survival of human communities.
If we can extend the period during which we are useful to society simply by our very survival (grandchildren, anyone? Great grandchildren?), we do good. If we can do this a very low cost to society in terms of medical and other care, so much the better. I hope that is a goal of most of us on this forum, not just our own pleasure in cycling. It's interesting that this pleasure does good for society. Our drives and the morality behind of them are of great interest, apparently even to neuroscientists.
Our moralities descend from how we see the world and our place in it. They are all artificial constructs which hopefully aid the human community, though obviously many times they are in conflict with that goal. Social evolution is a scientifically valid concept. It's much faster than the biological form, though not a heck of a lot. It's possible that the two forms interact.
The older we get, the more our bodies change. Some of these changes allow older people to use fewer calories to sustain themselves than younger people use. This may be an adaptation to allow older members of the community to survive longer and thus pass on their valuable experience. The location of water holes is just a small part of it. So no, in my view we do not have a duty to die when we can't "work" any longer. In fact, the whole concept of "work" is a slightly bizarre moral construct, probably foisted upon us by those who wish to profit from it. We have a duty to survive. Our genes cry out the truth of this to us. No one wants to die. We all want to live. This is a good thing for the survival of human communities.
If we can extend the period during which we are useful to society simply by our very survival (grandchildren, anyone? Great grandchildren?), we do good. If we can do this a very low cost to society in terms of medical and other care, so much the better. I hope that is a goal of most of us on this forum, not just our own pleasure in cycling. It's interesting that this pleasure does good for society. Our drives and the morality behind of them are of great interest, apparently even to neuroscientists.
Us oldsters are supposed to have wisdom to pass on to younger generations but, sad to say, not one is listening. I single bike ride on a MUP will confirm this.